Unless any new hires are done already or getting finalized today, I doubt we hear something before Jan 2nd.DenverOfTheEast wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:57 amI get that Captain Obvious --appstate24 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 7:23 amHe has hired TWO assistant coaches…DenverOfTheEast wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 6:50 amI wonder how often a person that worked in the NFL for X number of years, coached in the SEC 3 seasons, sat around and thought or even wrote down in a journal like many LEADERS or future Head Coaches do,
''who will I hire or how will my staff look like if I get the App State job' ?
Now some of you will understand what I am getting at with that post, and the ones that don't, well not much we can do for you.
Is there any new staff hires lately - that has more than 5 years coaching and recruiting experience at the FBS level??
My question is are there any hires that have experience that will make us stand up and have confidence in the future???
The Yurachek hire is favor to his dad who is the AD at Arkansas -- turned the App State AD job down in 2015 when DG was hired. He was the guy, pulled out to remain at Houston, was promoted to Houston and then on to Arkansas.
A experienced FBS Def Co hire would be nice before New Years.
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I would assume the best is yet to come, but its hard to get excited about the first two hires. I think the change was needed but we are two weeks into this and little to nothing to show for it in terms of staff or portal additions. That's not to say that won't change soon but one can't realistically say that they've been impressed beyond the original hire of DLo.Hudson2002 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:07 amFirst two assistants announced have been GAs. They may be great young coaches ready to excel in their first position coach gig, but with a first time head coach and 2 former GAs now on board I hope we can get some bonafide experience on board soon.
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All fair. I think that once the smoke clears, two things will become apparent. A fair assessment on CDL’s ability to put together a staff, and the talent that our resources can attract.hapapp wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:35 amI would assume the best is yet to come, but its hard to get excited about the first two hires. I think the change was needed but we are two weeks into this and little to nothing to show for it in terms of staff or portal additions. That's not to say that won't change soon but one can't realistically say that they've been impressed beyond the original hire of DLo.Hudson2002 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:07 amFirst two assistants announced have been GAs. They may be great young coaches ready to excel in their first position coach gig, but with a first time head coach and 2 former GAs now on board I hope we can get some bonafide experience on board soon.
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Yep, and so far I am not feeling warm and fuzzy.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:44 amAll fair. I think that once the smoke clears, two things will become apparent. A fair assessment on CDL’s ability to put together a staff, and the talent that our resources can attract.hapapp wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:35 amI would assume the best is yet to come, but its hard to get excited about the first two hires. I think the change was needed but we are two weeks into this and little to nothing to show for it in terms of staff or portal additions. That's not to say that won't change soon but one can't realistically say that they've been impressed beyond the original hire of DLo.Hudson2002 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:07 amFirst two assistants announced have been GAs. They may be great young coaches ready to excel in their first position coach gig, but with a first time head coach and 2 former GAs now on board I hope we can get some bonafide experience on board soon.
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Don’t underestimate our resources just yet. Assistant salary pool is going up significantly and financial investments are being made for the first time in the FBS level.
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Hold up- are you referring to DOTE or Eric here??appstate24 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 8:17 amJust a guy with a motive. Claims to be a diehard App fan, but deep down almost hopes this hire fails, so he can get his rocks off saying told you so.BambooRdApp wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 7:46 amDefine "lately" ...are you stating since DLo hiring, since Clark was hired, or last 15 years?DenverOfTheEast wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 6:50 amI wonder how often a person that worked in the NFL for X number of years, coached in the SEC 3 seasons, sat around and thought or even wrote down in a journal like many LEADERS or future Head Coaches do,
''who will I hire or how will my staff look like if I get the App State job' ?
Now some of you will understand what I am getting at with that post, and the ones that don't, well not much we can do for you.
Is there any new staff hires lately - that has more than 5 years coaching and recruiting experience at the FBS level??
Getting old and kinda weird, honestly.
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Looks like the coaching staff has been updated on the athletics website. Everyone from the old staff removed except Rod West and Lance Ware. Perhaps they are staying on?
As mentioned earlier Greenhalgh and Speir are still listed as well.
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As mentioned earlier Greenhalgh and Speir are still listed as well.
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Do we know how much the assistant pool of cash is going up or are we just hoping?ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:55 amDon’t underestimate our resources just yet. Assistant salary pool is going up significantly and financial investments are being made for the first time in the FBS level.
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I've heard good things about Rod in the past. Ware seems like a no brainer. 5 state titles as a head coach. 3 more as a coordinator. Extremely well connected in the NC/SC high school football world. Largely responsible for some of our big recruiting wins in the past few years. Great relationship with a lot of our big donors through his time as senior assistant for Drink and Clark which entailed a good bit of fundraising work behind the scenes. App guy through and through. Seems likely to check a lot of boxes for a first-time head coach with no ties to the program.
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$3mpop5app wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 2:21 pmDo we know how much the assistant pool of cash is going up or are we just hoping?ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:55 amDon’t underestimate our resources just yet. Assistant salary pool is going up significantly and financial investments are being made for the first time in the FBS level.
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That’s gotta be close to the top at sbc/g5ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 2:30 pm$3mpop5app wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 2:21 pmDo we know how much the assistant pool of cash is going up or are we just hoping?ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:55 amDon’t underestimate our resources just yet. Assistant salary pool is going up significantly and financial investments are being made for the first time in the FBS level.
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Hoping Coach West can get Bomar and Weaver to re-commit and sign. Bomar is special.Hudson2002 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 2:24 pmI've heard good things about Rod in the past. Ware seems like a no brainer. 5 state titles as a head coach. 3 more as a coordinator. Extremely well connected in the NC/SC high school football world. Largely responsible for some of our big recruiting wins in the past few years. Great relationship with a lot of our big donors through his time as senior assistant for Drink and Clark which entailed a good bit of fundraising work behind the scenes. App guy through and through. Seems likely to check a lot of boxes for a first-time head coach with no ties to the program.
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Those 2 are studs. We will have to fight like heck. You know Dabo and Beamer are just waiting to see what happens with roster management before they offer.appstate24 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 2:50 pmHoping Coach West can get Bomar and Weaver to re-commit and sign. Bomar is special.Hudson2002 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 2:24 pmI've heard good things about Rod in the past. Ware seems like a no brainer. 5 state titles as a head coach. 3 more as a coordinator. Extremely well connected in the NC/SC high school football world. Largely responsible for some of our big recruiting wins in the past few years. Great relationship with a lot of our big donors through his time as senior assistant for Drink and Clark which entailed a good bit of fundraising work behind the scenes. App guy through and through. Seems likely to check a lot of boxes for a first-time head coach with no ties to the program.
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I’d put money on them signing if West is retained.appstate24 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 2:50 pmHoping Coach West can get Bomar and Weaver to re-commit and sign. Bomar is special.Hudson2002 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 2:24 pmI've heard good things about Rod in the past. Ware seems like a no brainer. 5 state titles as a head coach. 3 more as a coordinator. Extremely well connected in the NC/SC high school football world. Largely responsible for some of our big recruiting wins in the past few years. Great relationship with a lot of our big donors through his time as senior assistant for Drink and Clark which entailed a good bit of fundraising work behind the scenes. App guy through and through. Seems likely to check a lot of boxes for a first-time head coach with no ties to the program.
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I’m really not sure and don’t have any data. I would say it has to be near the top for the SBC for sure. I believe under Clark it was around $1.5-$2m. So the belief by some that we are strapped for cash is not always true. There are investments being made to change things.BallantyneApp wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 2:45 pmThat’s gotta be close to the top at sbc/g5ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 2:30 pm$3mpop5app wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 2:21 pmDo we know how much the assistant pool of cash is going up or are we just hoping?ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:55 amDon’t underestimate our resources just yet. Assistant salary pool is going up significantly and financial investments are being made for the first time in the FBS level.
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So are you saying that we had an extra $1 to $1.5 million available all along for coaches that could have been used to help the former staff and we didn’t allow them to use it?ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:15 pmI’m really not sure and don’t have any data. I would say it has to be near the top for the SBC for sure. I believe under Clark it was around $1.5-$2m. So the belief by some that we are strapped for cash is not always true. There are investments being made to change things.BallantyneApp wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 2:45 pmThat’s gotta be close to the top at sbc/g5ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 2:30 pm$3mpop5app wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 2:21 pmDo we know how much the assistant pool of cash is going up or are we just hoping?ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:55 amDon’t underestimate our resources just yet. Assistant salary pool is going up significantly and financial investments are being made for the first time in the FBS level.
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No. I believe the three main reasons are:AppSt94 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:35 pmSo are you saying that we had an extra $1 to $1.5 million available all along for coaches that could have been used to help the former staff and we didn’t allow them to use it?ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:15 pmI’m really not sure and don’t have any data. I would say it has to be near the top for the SBC for sure. I believe under Clark it was around $1.5-$2m. So the belief by some that we are strapped for cash is not always true. There are investments being made to change things.BallantyneApp wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 2:45 pmThat’s gotta be close to the top at sbc/g5
1. The powers that be are realizing we can no longer scrap by and are willing to spend more when they weren’t before because they hadn’t experience much losing. I think this is the biggest reason.
2. We have a HC who is aware of the financial obligations needed to compete at the next level.
3. We have a HC who can sell his vision well enough to get money flowing.