Dowell's assistants

[AppSt94]

If we weren’t further along than we see, I highly doubt that we would’ve retained all the players we have.

Could be. But I don’t see DL sharing with the players who he has coming in without risk of compromise it getting out. I do appreciate that DL has allowed these kids to explore their options with one of them being to return. Says a lot about him as a person and his value of relationships.

[AppStFan1]

It took 7 days to hire CDL -- he's been the coach for 14 days and hasn't made a significant hire yet...........


DG got sold a bill of goods and this is the first sign of that, not having a real staff ready to rock in roll.

Yeah I'm not ready to agree with you but I am getting there...

Of course some hires may be coming from CFP teams so if we don't see much movement by the end of the week I'm going to call a spade a spade.

this is how Trump must feel --

"I don't want to agree with DOTE, but damn he's probably right." - said a majority of YC posters

Happy Holidays! and...
'Keep the change you filthy animals' - what Holiday movie?

Not exactly. I don’t know names but I am told that DL has most of staff filled out. Several can’t be announced because they are going to coach one last game for their current team. He is doing a good job of retaining players overall.

Got to relax and be a little patient. No regret on this hire yet. We are a bit of a rebuild now so we have to give him a little time. You seem to be pulling against them and that only hurts our program. A true App fan should be pulling for DL because if he fails our program fails.

I want him to succeed absolutly, but these two things bother me. If he has his staff but they are going to coach one more game, I hope that is something they cannot legally get out of. I hope this is where they want to be right this minute, but it is impossible. Second, I am way more worried about working the portal because I am consistent with thinking we don’t have the horses to run this race.

Drink hired Dorsey right before Christmas and he left us a few weeks later in late January so our staff was not filled out until February that year. He had a very high quality staff and I feel like a stronger staff takes a little longer.

In regards to the portal I don't think anyone knows the urgency more than DL does after seeing how many scholarship players we have and looking to see what our roster needs.

We all know that it will take a miracle to be a contender in 2025 and are likely in a 2-3 year rebuild. If we don't have but 1-2 commits and 3 coaches announced in 3 weeks I will worry a little bit but I just think we need to give him a little time.

[AppStFan1]

It took 7 days to hire CDL -- he's been the coach for 14 days and hasn't made a significant hire yet...........


DG got sold a bill of goods and this is the first sign of that, not having a real staff ready to rock in roll.

Yeah I'm not ready to agree with you but I am getting there...

Of course some hires may be coming from CFP teams so if we don't see much movement by the end of the week I'm going to call a spade a spade.

this is how Trump must feel --

"I don't want to agree with DOTE, but damn he's probably right." - said a majority of YC posters

Happy Holidays! and...
'Keep the change you filthy animals' - what Holiday movie?

Not exactly. I don’t know names but I am told that DL has most of staff filled out. Several can’t be announced because they are going to coach one last game for their current team. He is doing a good job of retaining players overall.

Got to relax and be a little patient. No regret on this hire yet. We are a bit of a rebuild now so we have to give him a little time. You seem to be pulling against them and that only hurts our program. A true App fan should be pulling for DL because if he fails our program fails.

Great...Come January 2nd if we still don't have at least 1 Coordinator announced then I'll be in Denvers camp and I don't think y'all can dissuade me...

It's one thing to keep things quiet but in the world of CFB nothing is a secret for long so in this case no news is actually bad news by that point.

We did not have a QB coach after Drink was hired until February because we got poached, like potentially happening with DC hire. That was coming off a year where we almost finished ranked and were expected to be SBC Champs but we are coming off a 5-6 year missing a bowl game in 2 of the last 3 years. We just need to give DL a little bit of time.

[704App]

If Loggains truly has his staff and are just letting them coach out the rest of their season before announcing, that is going to pay dividends in the long run. That doesn't happen much any more and finding integrity and respect at the top is rare with "big time football." It's always about me me me. So, if a perspective staff member can trust Loggains enough to keep everything quiet so they can finish out a job they spent all season preparing for, that is 1) going to make other coaches want to work for him and 2) shows the type of program he will run.

I am still hesitant on the hire based on his resume and his lack of numbers everywhere he's been. But, to me, this is a good sign, not a bad one -- if he really does have his staff in place and they are all still coaching.

[kornegaylw]

Yeah I'm not ready to agree with you but I am getting there...

Of course some hires may be coming from CFP teams so if we don't see much movement by the end of the week I'm going to call a spade a spade.

this is how Trump must feel --

"I don't want to agree with DOTE, but damn he's probably right." - said a majority of YC posters

Happy Holidays! and...
'Keep the change you filthy animals' - what Holiday movie?

Not exactly. I don’t know names but I am told that DL has most of staff filled out. Several can’t be announced because they are going to coach one last game for their current team. He is doing a good job of retaining players overall.

Got to relax and be a little patient. No regret on this hire yet. We are a bit of a rebuild now so we have to give him a little time. You seem to be pulling against them and that only hurts our program. A true App fan should be pulling for DL because if he fails our program fails.

Great...Come January 2nd if we still don't have at least 1 Coordinator announced then I'll be in Denvers camp and I don't think y'all can dissuade me...

It's one thing to keep things quiet but in the world of CFB nothing is a secret for long so in this case no news is actually bad news by that point.

We did not have a QB coach after Drink was hired until February because we got poached, like potentially happening with DC hire. That was coming off a year where we almost finished ranked and were expected to be SBC Champs but we are coming off a 5-6 year missing a bowl game in 2 of the last 3 years. We just need to give DL a little bit of time.

Yeah I remember and I don't want to sound like I'm saying the sky is falling b/c I don't...

...I don't expect a full staff by the first week for January BUT I do hope that we have at least one Coordinator and some more significant assistances signed.

[t4pizza]

Yeah I'm not ready to agree with you but I am getting there...

Of course some hires may be coming from CFP teams so if we don't see much movement by the end of the week I'm going to call a spade a spade.

this is how Trump must feel --

"I don't want to agree with DOTE, but damn he's probably right." - said a majority of YC posters

Happy Holidays! and...
'Keep the change you filthy animals' - what Holiday movie?

Not exactly. I don’t know names but I am told that DL has most of staff filled out. Several can’t be announced because they are going to coach one last game for their current team. He is doing a good job of retaining players overall.

Got to relax and be a little patient. No regret on this hire yet. We are a bit of a rebuild now so we have to give him a little time. You seem to be pulling against them and that only hurts our program. A true App fan should be pulling for DL because if he fails our program fails.

I want him to succeed absolutly, but these two things bother me. If he has his staff but they are going to coach one more game, I hope that is something they cannot legally get out of. I hope this is where they want to be right this minute, but it is impossible. Second, I am way more worried about working the portal because I am consistent with thinking we don’t have the horses to run this race.

Drink hired Dorsey right before Christmas and he left us a few weeks later in late January so our staff was not filled out until February that year. He had a very high quality staff and I feel like a stronger staff takes a little longer.

In regards to the portal I don't think anyone knows the urgency more than DL does after seeing how many scholarship players we have and looking to see what our roster needs.

We all know that it will take a miracle to be a contender in 2025 and are likely in a 2-3 year rebuild. If we don't have but 1-2 commits and 3 coaches announced in 3 weeks I will worry a little bit but I just think we need to give him a little time.

In this day and age, it should not take a good coach 3 years to turn around any program. Good coaches get results in year one now, it isn't the old days of waiting to get your own recruits for your system that would take years. Now you can go out twice a year and get guys you want. I expect to at least be bowling next year and competing for to top of the east.

[AppStFan1]

this is how Trump must feel --

"I don't want to agree with DOTE, but damn he's probably right." - said a majority of YC posters

Happy Holidays! and...
'Keep the change you filthy animals' - what Holiday movie?

Not exactly. I don’t know names but I am told that DL has most of staff filled out. Several can’t be announced because they are going to coach one last game for their current team. He is doing a good job of retaining players overall.

Got to relax and be a little patient. No regret on this hire yet. We are a bit of a rebuild now so we have to give him a little time. You seem to be pulling against them and that only hurts our program. A true App fan should be pulling for DL because if he fails our program fails.

Great...Come January 2nd if we still don't have at least 1 Coordinator announced then I'll be in Denvers camp and I don't think y'all can dissuade me...

It's one thing to keep things quiet but in the world of CFB nothing is a secret for long so in this case no news is actually bad news by that point.

We did not have a QB coach after Drink was hired until February because we got poached, like potentially happening with DC hire. That was coming off a year where we almost finished ranked and were expected to be SBC Champs but we are coming off a 5-6 year missing a bowl game in 2 of the last 3 years. We just need to give DL a little bit of time.

Yeah I remember and I don't want to sound like I'm saying the sky is falling b/c I don't...

...I don't expect a full staff by the first week for January BUT I do hope that we have at least one Coordinator and some more significant assistances signed.

Clark had 5 years before we let him go and I know DL is not one of our alumni but he deserves a little time. There is really no benefit to people getting on here trying to sound alarms when there is no reason to this early.

Keep in mind we had a lot of leaks under the previous staff but I don't think that will happen as much with DL.

[goapps93]

Billy B down in Chapel Hill hasn’t put together a staff yet either.

[kornegaylw]

Billy B down in Chapel Hill hasn’t put together a staff yet either.

...Probably b/c he is still interviewing for NFL jobs...

[AppStFan1]

this is how Trump must feel --

"I don't want to agree with DOTE, but damn he's probably right." - said a majority of YC posters

Happy Holidays! and...
'Keep the change you filthy animals' - what Holiday movie?

Not exactly. I don’t know names but I am told that DL has most of staff filled out. Several can’t be announced because they are going to coach one last game for their current team. He is doing a good job of retaining players overall.

Got to relax and be a little patient. No regret on this hire yet. We are a bit of a rebuild now so we have to give him a little time. You seem to be pulling against them and that only hurts our program. A true App fan should be pulling for DL because if he fails our program fails.

I want him to succeed absolutly, but these two things bother me. If he has his staff but they are going to coach one more game, I hope that is something they cannot legally get out of. I hope this is where they want to be right this minute, but it is impossible. Second, I am way more worried about working the portal because I am consistent with thinking we don’t have the horses to run this race.

Drink hired Dorsey right before Christmas and he left us a few weeks later in late January so our staff was not filled out until February that year. He had a very high quality staff and I feel like a stronger staff takes a little longer.

In regards to the portal I don't think anyone knows the urgency more than DL does after seeing how many scholarship players we have and looking to see what our roster needs.

We all know that it will take a miracle to be a contender in 2025 and are likely in a 2-3 year rebuild. If we don't have but 1-2 commits and 3 coaches announced in 3 weeks I will worry a little bit but I just think we need to give him a little time.

In this day and age, it should not take a good coach 3 years to turn around any program. Good coaches get results in year one now, it isn't the old days of waiting to get your own recruits for your system that would take years. Now you can go out twice a year and get guys you want. I expect to at least be bowling next year and competing for to top of the east.

We need to see our staff, team, and what else is returning before we get an idea of a realistic goal for next year but I do think it is fair to expect a bowl game. It will be nice to get one after missing a bowl game 2 of the last 3 years.

[AppStFan1]

Billy B down in Chapel Hill hasn’t put together a staff yet either.

Indeed! And he is supposedly the "greatest coach of all-time".

[ASUTodd]

Billy B down in Chapel Hill hasn’t put together a staff yet either.

Indeed! And he is supposedly the "greatest coach of all-time".

He hasn't but his portal has been popping...college kids all over the place want to play for BB. uNC wanted to be taken seriously and they proved it by ponying up the money for BB. I think UNC has gone all in on being the best. I hate UNC but I admire their effort with this.

[AtlAppMan]

I always say a coach or AD should keep a short list all the time. However , the reality is that who is available at any given time AND willing to come to App is an ever changing roster. That is due to their current employment situation, what other opportunities are current on the table for them, available money at that time, their near term commitment, etc etc.

Bottom line is because of the above it is not realistic to think a new coach can just come in and make a few calls and the staff is secured.

I would rather him get it right by mid Jan and they kill it once they start than having quick hires but they do subpar work.

FYI I have to even remind myself of the above as I am impatient as well.

[BeauFoster]

Billy B down in Chapel Hill hasn’t put together a staff yet either.

Indeed! And he is supposedly the "greatest coach of all-time".

He hasn't but his portal has been popping...college kids all over the place want to play for BB. uNC wanted to be taken seriously and they proved it by ponying up the money for BB. I think UNC has gone all in on being the best. I hate UNC but I admire their effort with this.

Is it BB they’re interested in, or does that $20mil NIL have something to do with it?

[AppStFan1]

Billy B down in Chapel Hill hasn’t put together a staff yet either.

Indeed! And he is supposedly the "greatest coach of all-time".

He hasn't but his portal has been popping...college kids all over the place want to play for BB. uNC wanted to be taken seriously and they proved it by ponying up the money for BB. I think UNC has gone all in on being the best. I hate UNC but I admire their effort with this.

It is just the buzz of his name and their money but I will be very interested to see how they do with Bill. UNC is an elite job putting 30M into NIL. If we had 30M in NIL you would be amazed at some of the names we would have coming to Boone.

How do we know the portal has not been popping for DL? You have to remember that this is a transition time for our media as well. We don't have much media anyway but even the small amount we do have did not know DL or the people he is likely bringing in so a lot less is getting out than before. This is a big reason why I am being patient because I am being told a lot is going on but we just have not announced much yet. I want to see how the next 3-4 weeks go.

[ASUTodd]

Billy B down in Chapel Hill hasn’t put together a staff yet either.

Indeed! And he is supposedly the "greatest coach of all-time".

He hasn't but his portal has been popping...college kids all over the place want to play for BB. uNC wanted to be taken seriously and they proved it by ponying up the money for BB. I think UNC has gone all in on being the best. I hate UNC but I admire their effort with this.

Is it BB they’re interested in, or does that $20mil NIL have something to do with it?

That's why I said UNC went all in on this...
Coach, NIL, the whole shabang... That NIL looks good to players and then throw in BB.... Heck I'd want to play for him. Not sure I could get past the UNC blue though.

[ASUTodd]

Billy B down in Chapel Hill hasn’t put together a staff yet either.

Indeed! And he is supposedly the "greatest coach of all-time".

He hasn't but his portal has been popping...college kids all over the place want to play for BB. uNC wanted to be taken seriously and they proved it by ponying up the money for BB. I think UNC has gone all in on being the best. I hate UNC but I admire their effort with this.

It is just the buzz of his name and their money but I will be very interested to see how they do with Bill. UNC is an elite job putting 30M into NIL. If we had 30M in NIL you would be amazed at some of the names we would have coming to Boone.

How do we know the portal has not been popping for DL? You have to remember that this is a transition time for our media as well. We don't have much media anyway but even the small amount we do have did not know DL or the people he is likely bringing in so a lot less is getting out than before. This is a big reason why I am being patient because I am being told a lot is going on but we just have not announced much yet. I want to see how the next 3-4 weeks go.

We pretty much know when someone commits. I don't think we have any issues with that. I wasn't knocking DLo and the portal, I was stating that UNC has had a lot of activity in their portal. The team we had this past season could win every game that we played. You kick some bad apples to the curb, fill in those spots, replace seniors, and bam.... Back at it with a legit team.

[BambooRdApp]

Billy B down in Chapel Hill hasn’t put together a staff yet either.

Indeed! And he is supposedly the "greatest coach of all-time".

He hasn't but his portal has been popping...college kids all over the place want to play for BB. uNC wanted to be taken seriously and they proved it by ponying up the money for BB. I think UNC has gone all in on being the best. I hate UNC but I admire their effort with this.

It is just the buzz of his name and their money but I will be very interested to see how they do with Bill. UNC is an elite job putting 30M into NIL. If we had 30M in NIL you would be amazed at some of the names we would have coming to Boone.

How do we know the portal has not been popping for DL? You have to remember that this is a transition time for our media as well. We don't have much media anyway but even the small amount we do have did not know DL or the people he is likely bringing in so a lot less is getting out than before. This is a big reason why I am being patient because I am being told a lot is going on but we just have not announced much yet. I want to see how the next 3-4 weeks go.

We pretty much know when someone commits. I don't think we have any issues with that. I wasn't knocking DLo and the portal, I was stating that UNC has had a lot of activity in their portal. The team we had this past season could win every game that we played. You kick some bad apples to the curb, fill in those spots, replace seniors, and bam.... Back at it with a legit team.

I disagree with that analysis. We would not have beaten Clemson and So. Ally.
All the other games, including Marshall, I do believe we would have won or it would have more competitive..just my opinion. On D, at LB and secondary, we just did not have the Jimmy and Joe's to compete each and every play. Just my opinion.

[spacemonkey]

Billy B down in Chapel Hill hasn’t put together a staff yet either.

Indeed! And he is supposedly the "greatest coach of all-time".

He hasn't but his portal has been popping...college kids all over the place want to play for BB. uNC wanted to be taken seriously and they proved it by ponying up the money for BB. I think UNC has gone all in on being the best. I hate UNC but I admire their effort with this.

I hate UNC but this new system(NIL) is a dream scenario for Chapel Hill. They will thrive in it. I think Michigan, Texa, Ohio St., UNC, and USCal., U of Georgia....will be the year end year out winners of the new system. Plenty of Old smelly money with their alumni.

[hapapp]

Billy B down in Chapel Hill hasn’t put together a staff yet either.

Indeed! And he is supposedly the "greatest coach of all-time".

He hasn't but his portal has been popping...college kids all over the place want to play for BB. uNC wanted to be taken seriously and they proved it by ponying up the money for BB. I think UNC has gone all in on being the best. I hate UNC but I admire their effort with this.

Is it BB they’re interested in, or does that $20mil NIL have something to do with it?

But, isn't that why there is $20M?