App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by bcoach » Mon Dec 30, 2024 12:35 pm

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Professional athletes are fair game. As to this one , always respectful , family very friendly .Hope he gets a degree somewhere.

It was probably a good move for both of us. Hope he is happy. He is a professional though.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by BallantyneApp » Mon Dec 30, 2024 12:37 pm

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Jesus, yall can't even be nice about a young adult who gave his all during his time here in Joey. Yall still have to find ways to put him down and his choice to move to UCLA. I stand by a previous statement I made about who in the world would want to play for an online fanbase that shits on people as soon as they leave, even ones that gave so much. Such miserable little grinches.
I can promise you those on this board are very mild.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by NewApp » Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:11 pm

appdaze wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:29 pm
Pikapp79 wrote:
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MrCraig wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:16 pm
appdaze wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:03 pm
Sure are a lot of grown, supposedly mature, adults on here shitting on these young men who are trying to get a pay day using the skills they have. What a bunch of sour puss panty wads. If this is how y'all want to treat these young men when they try to get one last pay day then why the F would any other young men want to come play in front of you?
Like so many otherthings in our world, the blame is being put in the wrong place. No one should blame any of these players for taking advantage of the opportunity afforded them. It's the NCAA, the conferences, the coaches, and the boosters that are creating this situation. The NCAA could have set up a system with guardrails and caps and whatever else to make this more fair and orderly. Instead, they buried their heads in the sand. Then, when the Supreme Court blew it all up, the NCAA just shrugs and says, "oh well, nothing we can do!"
But no, let's get mad at the young men who are exchanging athletic talent for money. THEY are the problem.
I’m not mad at them. As a matter of fact don’t blame them. Also don’t blame any fan for packing it in and not financially supporting the new model. No one should come down on a player or former fan for deciding the best path for them. The new model is a disaster for fans of mid to lower tier programs and a payday for players.
100% correct. I've stated on here I'm pretty sure my money will be heading strictly to the academic side. I'm blasting the "fans" going after these young men. Its getting absurd.
How can you be sure your money is going to the academic side?
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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by AppinVA » Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:13 pm

Saint3333 wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 12:26 pm
Guy from CA uses last year of eligibility to play QB and get a degree from UCLA.

You can say that guy played at pretty much any school last year and 99% of people would say that is awesome!
Guy from CA uses surprise gift of one more year of eligibility…
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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by AppDub » Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:16 pm

BallantyneApp wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 10:01 am
AppDub wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 5:52 pm
Mjohn1988 wrote:
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appdaze wrote:
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Going to UCLA is a solid life choice. Great place to make career connections. If you're not going to play on Sundays then make sure your Saturdays secure a good life.
Honest question, you really think Joey is going to spend 2 semesters at UCLA and make good career connections? I think these guys who aren’t going to play on Sunday would do better to spend 4 or 5 years at one place developing relationships and making connections.
He's a west coast kid. I'm sure he's looking to get back on the left coast and settle near his family. Not sure Boone NC is going to give him any better connections than that (not counting the girlfriend he met here), plus he probably received some real dollars to go to UCLA compared to some pocket change from App.
What’s real dollars? I go out to Cali quite often and $150k in Boone is probably $450k to live near Beverly Hills. I wish him well unless be plays App but unless he’s getting $500k you might be talking a downgrade in quality of life
Word over on the pay site was that his NIL worth was being valued in house between 500 and 750K. Seems like he could do a lot with that as a kid on scholarship with no real expenditures next year.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by NewApp » Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:31 pm

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Maybe, just maybe, all the talent we had just got worn out winning in 2019 and it showed in 2022. The same thing may have happened in 2023 and was exposed in 2024.

If Satterfield's system worked at APP, then why did it not work in Louisville and so far in Cincinatti?
Yep. Satterfield has had only 2 winning seasons since he left us.
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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by WASU 93 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:12 pm

Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 11:13 am
In about 5 years I’d love to see what the (then) 28ish year old former college football players have from their 2024 NIL payments. Maybe some will still have some jewelry left over and maybe some will be benefiting from their investments they made. Not to paint with a broad brush we know damn well money made from most NIL deals will be squandered.
And, how many college graduates have money left from the first year of work in the real world. Some will save it, some will spend it wisely and some will blow it

I hate the portal and I'm not real enthused about NIL as we know it, but some of these players graduate (or come close to it) during their stay on the mountain and their NIL deal (if they truly get one) is just like a standard student graduating and getting their first job. Unless they are a teacher, most graduates are going to get the best financial deal for themselves as they enter the real world.
It's not always about the money and the current rules suck. But, sometimes it is and there's no reason to hate on someone for getting paid to do what they love to do.
The best thing the NFL ever did was to agree on revenue sharing and a salary cap, which allowed small market franchises to compete. That's the only way out of the current mess (if App is going to benefit), but good luck with trying to find someone to unify the institutions.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by appfanjj » Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:33 pm

WASU 93 wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:12 pm
Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 11:13 am
In about 5 years I’d love to see what the (then) 28ish year old former college football players have from their 2024 NIL payments. Maybe some will still have some jewelry left over and maybe some will be benefiting from their investments they made. Not to paint with a broad brush we know damn well money made from most NIL deals will be squandered.
And, how many college graduates have money left from the first year of work in the real world. Some will save it, some will spend it wisely and some will blow it

I hate the portal and I'm not real enthused about NIL as we know it, but some of these players graduate (or come close to it) during their stay on the mountain and their NIL deal (if they truly get one) is just like a standard student graduating and getting their first job. Unless they are a teacher, most graduates are going to get the best financial deal for themselves as they enter the real world.
It's not always about the money and the current rules suck. But, sometimes it is and there's no reason to hate on someone for getting paid to do what they love to do.
The best thing the NFL ever did was to agree on revenue sharing and a salary cap, which allowed small market franchises to compete. That's the only way out of the current mess (if App is going to benefit), but good luck with trying to find someone to unify the institutions.
Nick Saban, College Football Commissioner

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by AppWyo » Tue Dec 31, 2024 5:29 pm

WASU 93 wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:12 pm
Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 11:13 am
In about 5 years I’d love to see what the (then) 28ish year old former college football players have from their 2024 NIL payments. Maybe some will still have some jewelry left over and maybe some will be benefiting from their investments they made. Not to paint with a broad brush we know damn well money made from most NIL deals will be squandered.
And, how many college graduates have money left from the first year of work in the real world. Some will save it, some will spend it wisely and some will blow it

I hate the portal and I'm not real enthused about NIL as we know it, but some of these players graduate (or come close to it) during their stay on the mountain and their NIL deal (if they truly get one) is just like a standard student graduating and getting their first job. Unless they are a teacher, most graduates are going to get the best financial deal for themselves as they enter the real world.
It's not always about the money and the current rules suck. But, sometimes it is and there's no reason to hate on someone for getting paid to do what they love to do.
The best thing the NFL ever did was to agree on revenue sharing and a salary cap, which allowed small market franchises to compete. That's the only way out of the current mess (if App is going to benefit), but good luck with trying to find someone to unify the institutions.
I believe the rules are to keep the haves having and the have nots not having.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Bootsy » Wed Jan 01, 2025 12:49 pm

appfanjj wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:33 pm
WASU 93 wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:12 pm
Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 11:13 am
In about 5 years I’d love to see what the (then) 28ish year old former college football players have from their 2024 NIL payments. Maybe some will still have some jewelry left over and maybe some will be benefiting from their investments they made. Not to paint with a broad brush we know damn well money made from most NIL deals will be squandered.
And, how many college graduates have money left from the first year of work in the real world. Some will save it, some will spend it wisely and some will blow it

I hate the portal and I'm not real enthused about NIL as we know it, but some of these players graduate (or come close to it) during their stay on the mountain and their NIL deal (if they truly get one) is just like a standard student graduating and getting their first job. Unless they are a teacher, most graduates are going to get the best financial deal for themselves as they enter the real world.
It's not always about the money and the current rules suck. But, sometimes it is and there's no reason to hate on someone for getting paid to do what they love to do.
The best thing the NFL ever did was to agree on revenue sharing and a salary cap, which allowed small market franchises to compete. That's the only way out of the current mess (if App is going to benefit), but good luck with trying to find someone to unify the institutions.
Nick Saban, College Football Commissioner
It’s interesting to see how quickly this idea is gaining steam. If he’s open to it, I’d be hard-pressed to think of anyone else who could be a better choice.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Appst86 » Wed Jan 01, 2025 1:15 pm

I would like to see Rick Neuheisel. He thinks the G5 should have a seat at the table and there should be revenue sharing. I think Saban would be fine with two conferences and eight teams from each making the playoffs, i.e. NFL model. Saban would lock out all conferences other than the Big 10 and the SEC.
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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Saint3333 » Wed Jan 01, 2025 1:34 pm

Bootsy wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 12:49 pm
appfanjj wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:33 pm
WASU 93 wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:12 pm
Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 11:13 am
In about 5 years I’d love to see what the (then) 28ish year old former college football players have from their 2024 NIL payments. Maybe some will still have some jewelry left over and maybe some will be benefiting from their investments they made. Not to paint with a broad brush we know damn well money made from most NIL deals will be squandered.
And, how many college graduates have money left from the first year of work in the real world. Some will save it, some will spend it wisely and some will blow it

I hate the portal and I'm not real enthused about NIL as we know it, but some of these players graduate (or come close to it) during their stay on the mountain and their NIL deal (if they truly get one) is just like a standard student graduating and getting their first job. Unless they are a teacher, most graduates are going to get the best financial deal for themselves as they enter the real world.
It's not always about the money and the current rules suck. But, sometimes it is and there's no reason to hate on someone for getting paid to do what they love to do.
The best thing the NFL ever did was to agree on revenue sharing and a salary cap, which allowed small market franchises to compete. That's the only way out of the current mess (if App is going to benefit), but good luck with trying to find someone to unify the institutions.
Nick Saban, College Football Commissioner
It’s interesting to see how quickly this idea is gaining steam. If he’s open to it, I’d be hard-pressed to think of anyone else who could be a better choice.
Won’t help the G5, no thanks.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by pop5app » Wed Jan 01, 2025 2:08 pm

Needs to be someone that open minded about G5. Neuheisel sounds good. Maybe someone outside of football like Tony Bennett.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by bcoach » Wed Jan 01, 2025 2:28 pm

appfanjj wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:33 pm
WASU 93 wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:12 pm
Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 11:13 am
In about 5 years I’d love to see what the (then) 28ish year old former college football players have from their 2024 NIL payments. Maybe some will still have some jewelry left over and maybe some will be benefiting from their investments they made. Not to paint with a broad brush we know damn well money made from most NIL deals will be squandered.
And, how many college graduates have money left from the first year of work in the real world. Some will save it, some will spend it wisely and some will blow it

I hate the portal and I'm not real enthused about NIL as we know it, but some of these players graduate (or come close to it) during their stay on the mountain and their NIL deal (if they truly get one) is just like a standard student graduating and getting their first job. Unless they are a teacher, most graduates are going to get the best financial deal for themselves as they enter the real world.
It's not always about the money and the current rules suck. But, sometimes it is and there's no reason to hate on someone for getting paid to do what they love to do.
The best thing the NFL ever did was to agree on revenue sharing and a salary cap, which allowed small market franchises to compete. That's the only way out of the current mess (if App is going to benefit), but good luck with trying to find someone to unify the institutions.
Nick Saban, College Football Commissioner
College Football Commissioner. What is the goal. What would you look for that person to do?

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by DoesntEvenGoHere » Wed Jan 01, 2025 3:29 pm

The idea would be to make things better. Right now the NCAA has no guts. If you separate the NCAA jurisdiction over College Football, a commissioner could be created to navigate a new era...an era we're already in. Transfer windows, transfer rules, # of games, # of roster spots, practice regulations (when, where, how many, style, etc.) all could be immediately put in place.

A commissioner would mean this is no longer amateur athletics, so it's still murky in what that would actually means (who remains with NCAA vs who moves towards a more professional model, etc)

I don't know if I love the idea but I can see some positives. At least make things clearer & provide a face & voice to College Football.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by bcoach » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:02 pm

DoesntEvenGoHere wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 3:29 pm
The idea would be to make things better. Right now the NCAA has no guts. If you separate the NCAA jurisdiction over College Football, a commissioner could be created to navigate a new era...an era we're already in. Transfer windows, transfer rules, # of games, # of roster spots, practice regulations (when, where, how many, style, etc.) all could be immediately put in place.

A commissioner would mean this is no longer amateur athletics, so it's still murky in what that would actually means (who remains with NCAA vs who moves towards a more professional model, etc)

I don't know if I love the idea but I can see some positives. At least make things clearer & provide a face & voice to College Football.
and a thousand lawers.

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Unread post by DoesntEvenGoHere » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:28 pm

Just because the future is murky with a potential change doesn't mean it's not needed.

We're all discussing this idea as fans of college football. I don't care how many lawyers must get involved. That's for the actual members that will force or put into action this idea to figure out.

Let us not forget that college athletics in general has been a cash cow for years with the NCAA and colleges profiting off athletes. They've created thousands of jobs with these funds & punished athletes who attempted to profit of their own success.

I have no sympathy for the system or it's potential chance of crumbling. Will there be negative consequences? Yes, but the foundation of the NCAA being "amateur" athletics has a severe crack in it & was created by decisions of the leaders within the NCAA.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Bigdaddyg1 » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:34 pm

Oregon probably has unreal NIl money to dole out and has an otherwise great roster…and they are absolutely getting boat raced by OSU. While I would love to see App State somehow have a magical season and grab a spot I have no desire to see us get completely hammered by a semi pro team who we have absolutely no shot at beating. Who on earth desires this for our team? Until someone with a brain actually pulls in the reigns and creates some sort of competitive opportunity for more than 6 schools it’s going to get worse.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by 311neers » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:38 pm

Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:34 pm
Oregon probably has unreal NIl money to dole out and has an otherwise great roster…and they are absolutely getting boat raced by OSU. While I would love to see App State somehow have a magical season and grab a spot I have no desire to see us get completely hammered by a semi pro team who we have absolutely no shot at beating. Who on earth desires this for our team? Until someone with a brain actually pulls in the reigns and creates some sort of competitive opportunity for more than 6 schools it’s going to get worse.
I think I’d be okay with a G5 playoff aka back to FCS.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Seattleapp » Wed Jan 01, 2025 7:02 pm

DoesntEvenGoHere wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:28 pm
Just because the future is murky with a potential change doesn't mean it's not needed.

We're all discussing this idea as fans of college football. I don't care how many lawyers must get involved. That's for the actual members that will force or put into action this idea to figure out.

Let us not forget that college athletics in general has been a cash cow for years with the NCAA and colleges profiting off athletes. They've created thousands of jobs with these funds & punished athletes who attempted to profit of their own success.

I have no sympathy for the system or it's potential chance of crumbling. Will there be negative consequences? Yes, but the foundation of the NCAA being "amateur" athletics has a severe crack in it & was created by decisions of the leaders within the NCAA.
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