App Transfer Portal 2025 - IN

[Appmountaineers19]

I worry about the lines every year. Old school.

Not old school. You are 100% right. Work from the inside out.

[AppYosef!]

Worried about OL and DL currently.

I agree. We need some help on both lines. But it does seem like we say this every year.

[Bootsy]

I worry about the lines every year. Old school.

Makes sense. If the foundation’s bad, the house won’t stay standing.

[BambooRdApp]

Games are won in the trenches.
Great OL make average QBs and RBs serviceable.
Great DLs make secondaries look great.
Tale as old as time.
If I were starting a team ..other than QB, those are the two areas I would spend a substantial amount of time researching and recruiting.
It takes a team overall, but the trenches win championships!!

[AppState89]

Two years at Vandy, then LSU for 1.

$450,000 is his NIL value. Wonder what he will be getting at App?

Not being a smart ass but his NIL value is what someone will give him. If he’s coming to App it isn’t $450,000.

I understand that. That is why I wonder what it will be at App. Someone said Joey got $150,000. I would think it would be that or a little more. On another note about him. Wonder if Dexter Jackson had something to do with him coming to App? Dexter did post a photo of him when he was younger. Appeared to look like some sort of camp.

[T-Dog]

247 lost all independence as “news” provider and instead became state media propaganda for Clark as they were buddies and he likewise censored whoever wasn’t aligned. I left the site for about a year and signed back up the day Clark was fired.
It’s clear his valuable contacts are gone and honestly the cabin provides better information currently. I’m sure that will change, but hoping Dowell treats him like Drink did so he’s able to actually critique the football program when needed without fear of having his tee time canceled.

I remember one of the Team Clark people on here once bragging about how Clark cut off Ware's access because he "reported something he shouldn't have."

[AppStateTailgate]

247 lost all independence as “news” provider and instead became state media propaganda for Clark as they were buddies and he likewise censored whoever wasn’t aligned. I left the site for about a year and signed back up the day Clark was fired.
It’s clear his valuable contacts are gone and honestly the cabin provides better information currently. I’m sure that will change, but hoping Dowell treats him like Drink did so he’s able to actually critique the football program when needed without fear of having his tee time canceled.

Just thought I'd share my story in this discussion. I have no involvement with the current 247 site but I started the original one many years ago when it was called AppNation247 (it hadn't been bought by CBSSports yet technically a different company). When I started all I had was just an amateurish blog. When I got the 247 offer I didn't like the paywall but I wanted our prospects to get "stars" (which I now know completely don't matter). We got the "stars" and the more professional site. But I was surprised I still wasn't getting interviews. It took a long time for the school to trust me, but eventually I got a few here and there. In the meantime I just interviewed prospects which were more than eager to get 247Sports profiles in exchange for a 10min interview.

That's the thing I'm most impressed about with the current site is the school obviously trusts them a lot more than they trust me because he's getting really good interviews. That's actually a huge deal. He's probably had to build up that level of trust over a long long time. This is just my opinion but it's unrealistic to expect someone to have "independence" and also have interviews and connections. You have to pick one. If you piss off the school you don't get interviews anymore. This isn't 60 minutes, they have to be softball interviews or it will be your last. It's that simple. If you piss off the prospects whatever site you work for would probably not let you represent them either. You can't go on there and say you don't think some prospect is a good fit or overrated or some current coach should be fired. You could also negatively affect our recruiting if you were to do that. If you want honest opinions/speculations/independence that's what the message boards are for. If you want softball interviews and loyalty to the school, that will still reveal interesting insider facts and a wealth of good recruiting data and analysis, that's what the blogs/podcasts are for. You just have to put together all of those sources yourself for the whole picture.

[704App]

The problem with the current 247 sports setup is he won't ask the hard questions. Heck, the school newspaper journalists ask better questions and Clark would even say something like "this is what we need in this room!" when he asked the hard questions.

It isn't a matter of getting interviews at 247. It's a matter of getting answers to the people that pay for the site. You can get those answers elsewhere for free -- because the employees elsewhere ask the hard questions. It's not our job to do the research. That is the job of the journalist. 247 doesn't have a journalist.

WIthout Firemoose, 247 would essentially be a fan blog with zero information.

[Yosef10]

247 lost all independence as “news” provider and instead became state media propaganda for Clark as they were buddies and he likewise censored whoever wasn’t aligned. I left the site for about a year and signed back up the day Clark was fired.
It’s clear his valuable contacts are gone and honestly the cabin provides better information currently. I’m sure that will change, but hoping Dowell treats him like Drink did so he’s able to actually critique the football program when needed without fear of having his tee time canceled.

Just thought I'd share my story in this discussion. I have no involvement with the current 247 site but I started the original one many years ago when it was called AppNation247 (it hadn't been bought by CBSSports yet technically a different company). When I started all I had was just an amateurish blog. When I got the 247 offer I didn't like the paywall but I wanted our prospects to get "stars" (which I now know completely don't matter). We got the "stars" and the more professional site. But I was surprised I still wasn't getting interviews. It took a long time for the school to trust me, but eventually I got a few here and there. In the meantime I just interviewed prospects which were more than eager to get 247Sports profiles in exchange for a 10min interview.

That's the thing I'm most impressed about with the current site is the school obviously trusts them a lot more than they trust me because he's getting really good interviews. That's actually a huge deal. He's probably had to build up that level of trust over a long long time. This is just my opinion but it's unrealistic to expect someone to have "independence" and also have interviews and connections. You have to pick one. If you piss off the school you don't get interviews anymore. This isn't 60 minutes, they have to be softball interviews or it will be your last. It's that simple. If you piss off the prospects whatever site you work for would probably not let you represent them either. You can't go on there and say you don't think some prospect is a good fit or overrated or some current coach should be fired. You could also negatively affect our recruiting if you were to do that. If you want honest opinions/speculations/independence that's what the message boards are for. If you want softball interviews and loyalty to the school, that will still reveal interesting insider facts and a wealth of good recruiting data and analysis, that's what the blogs/podcasts are for. You just have to put together all of those sources yourself for the whole picture.

Good post, thanks for the info. I shared a bit of a critique also, and in my version I do think the athletic dept shoulders a bit of the blame. Your post illustrates how guarded they are. Not asking them to share state secrets, but they should be friendly enough to allow information to get out and dispersed amongst the fan base. That will only get fans more involved. Seems they don’t have much interest in that route.

[appst89]

247 lost all independence as “news” provider and instead became state media propaganda for Clark as they were buddies and he likewise censored whoever wasn’t aligned. I left the site for about a year and signed back up the day Clark was fired.
It’s clear his valuable contacts are gone and honestly the cabin provides better information currently. I’m sure that will change, but hoping Dowell treats him like Drink did so he’s able to actually critique the football program when needed without fear of having his tee time canceled.

Just thought I'd share my story in this discussion. I have no involvement with the current 247 site but I started the original one many years ago when it was called AppNation247 (it hadn't been bought by CBSSports yet technically a different company). When I started all I had was just an amateurish blog. When I got the 247 offer I didn't like the paywall but I wanted our prospects to get "stars" (which I now know completely don't matter). We got the "stars" and the more professional site. But I was surprised I still wasn't getting interviews. It took a long time for the school to trust me, but eventually I got a few here and there. In the meantime I just interviewed prospects which were more than eager to get 247Sports profiles in exchange for a 10min interview.

That's the thing I'm most impressed about with the current site is the school obviously trusts them a lot more than they trust me because he's getting really good interviews. That's actually a huge deal. He's probably had to build up that level of trust over a long long time. This is just my opinion but it's unrealistic to expect someone to have "independence" and also have interviews and connections. You have to pick one. If you piss off the school you don't get interviews anymore. This isn't 60 minutes, they have to be softball interviews or it will be your last. It's that simple. If you piss off the prospects whatever site you work for would probably not let you represent them either. You can't go on there and say you don't think some prospect is a good fit or overrated or some current coach should be fired. You could also negatively affect our recruiting if you were to do that. If you want honest opinions/speculations/independence that's what the message boards are for. If you want softball interviews and loyalty to the school, that will still reveal interesting insider facts and a wealth of good recruiting data and analysis, that's what the blogs/podcasts are for. You just have to put together all of those sources yourself for the whole picture.

Good post, thanks for the info. I shared a bit of a critique also, and in my version I do think the athletic dept shoulders a bit of the blame. Your post illustrates how guarded they are. Not asking them to share state secrets, but they should be friendly enough to allow information to get out and dispersed amongst the fan base. That will only get fans more involved. Seems they don’t have much interest in that route.

My interactions with the athletic department have lead me to the belief that they really don’t like fans and would be happier if they didn’t have to deal with them. However, they need the money, so they reluctantly and half-heartedly pay lip service to the fans. But what they would really like is if all the fans would just shut up and send money.

[ASUTodd]

247 lost all independence as “news” provider and instead became state media propaganda for Clark as they were buddies and he likewise censored whoever wasn’t aligned. I left the site for about a year and signed back up the day Clark was fired.
It’s clear his valuable contacts are gone and honestly the cabin provides better information currently. I’m sure that will change, but hoping Dowell treats him like Drink did so he’s able to actually critique the football program when needed without fear of having his tee time canceled.

Just thought I'd share my story in this discussion. I have no involvement with the current 247 site but I started the original one many years ago when it was called AppNation247 (it hadn't been bought by CBSSports yet technically a different company). When I started all I had was just an amateurish blog. When I got the 247 offer I didn't like the paywall but I wanted our prospects to get "stars" (which I now know completely don't matter). We got the "stars" and the more professional site. But I was surprised I still wasn't getting interviews. It took a long time for the school to trust me, but eventually I got a few here and there. In the meantime I just interviewed prospects which were more than eager to get 247Sports profiles in exchange for a 10min interview.

That's the thing I'm most impressed about with the current site is the school obviously trusts them a lot more than they trust me because he's getting really good interviews. That's actually a huge deal. He's probably had to build up that level of trust over a long long time. This is just my opinion but it's unrealistic to expect someone to have "independence" and also have interviews and connections. You have to pick one. If you piss off the school you don't get interviews anymore. This isn't 60 minutes, they have to be softball interviews or it will be your last. It's that simple. If you piss off the prospects whatever site you work for would probably not let you represent them either. You can't go on there and say you don't think some prospect is a good fit or overrated or some current coach should be fired. You could also negatively affect our recruiting if you were to do that. If you want honest opinions/speculations/independence that's what the message boards are for. If you want softball interviews and loyalty to the school, that will still reveal interesting insider facts and a wealth of good recruiting data and analysis, that's what the blogs/podcasts are for. You just have to put together all of those sources yourself for the whole picture.

Good post, thanks for the info. I shared a bit of a critique also, and in my version I do think the athletic dept shoulders a bit of the blame. Your post illustrates how guarded they are. Not asking them to share state secrets, but they should be friendly enough to allow information to get out and dispersed amongst the fan base. That will only get fans more involved. Seems they don’t have much interest in that route.

If an entity is scared to answer tough questions or sets up interviews that they already know the questions, then they have something to hide. No one is asking for them to air dirty laundry but not being available to answer real questions is just a joke. If a question gets asked they don't like then simply say they have no comment.

[AppStateTailgate]

The problem with the current 247 sports setup is he won't ask the hard questions. Heck, the school newspaper journalists ask better questions and Clark would even say something like "this is what we need in this room!" when he asked the hard questions.

It isn't a matter of getting interviews at 247. It's a matter of getting answers to the people that pay for the site. You can get those answers elsewhere for free -- because the employees elsewhere ask the hard questions. It's not our job to do the research. That is the job of the journalist. 247 doesn't have a journalist.

WIthout Firemoose, 247 would essentially be a fan blog with zero information.

Let me give you a specific example of how hard it is to do real journalism and maintain access. Keep in mind this story takes place with a different administration at App State so no reflection on the current people there. When I ran AppStateNation (pre 247) I was frustrated that all of these "journalists" weren't getting any info about conference realignment (we were trying to get in Sun Belt/CUSA at the time). You could ask all the questions you wanted but they of course weren't going to answer openly about confidential discussions. Looking back I don't blame them, but at the time I didn't get it.

Finally I just researched how to do a FOIA request and submitted one. App State STILL refused to answer. They sent me a polite letter saying more or less to pound sand. I would have basically had to get a lawyer and I was 19 years old so that wasn't an option. So I got creative and I sent a FOIA request to Georgia Southern since I knew they were in a similar situation. They asked me for $20 to cover printing costs, which I provided. In return I immediately got a giant stack of emails and charts between the Sun Belt/Georgia Southern which included information about App State. I posted it on my blog and actually NBC Sports cited my blog as a source. Here's one example of a site citing me: https://www.aseaofred.com/new-informati ... alignment/. At the time I was really proud of myself.

What did I get in return for that "journalism"? About half of the people who read the articles called me a liar said I made the whole thing up for clicks. The school didn't trust me for years and it was hard for me to get interviews even when I worked at 247. And in the end we all found out we were going to the Sun Belt soon enough when the news was official anyway. So I burned bridges basically for nothing.

[Stonewall]

Good conversation here. It might be that the level of trust overall is down and we all can understand why. I was at one time a paying member of the 24/7 site but left due to things being reported or at least discussed that were just not accurate.Numerous issues. You might recognize that I don’t engage in arguments. I just share what I can and try to delineate what I know to be true from what I think . You can take it or leave it. The people here generally are accepting of that perhaps because there is no financial commitment required. In any event I choose to share here , again some things I’m asked not to and I respect that or risk my relationships. However I wish everyone trying to make a business work well. I know how difficult that can be.

[704App]

The problem with the current 247 sports setup is he won't ask the hard questions. Heck, the school newspaper journalists ask better questions and Clark would even say something like "this is what we need in this room!" when he asked the hard questions.

It isn't a matter of getting interviews at 247. It's a matter of getting answers to the people that pay for the site. You can get those answers elsewhere for free -- because the employees elsewhere ask the hard questions. It's not our job to do the research. That is the job of the journalist. 247 doesn't have a journalist.

WIthout Firemoose, 247 would essentially be a fan blog with zero information.

Let me give you a specific example of how hard it is to do real journalism and maintain access. Keep in mind this story takes place with a different administration at App State so no reflection on the current people there. When I ran AppStateNation (pre 247) I was frustrated that all of these "journalists" weren't getting any info about conference realignment (we were trying to get in Sun Belt/CUSA at the time). You could ask all the questions you wanted but they of course weren't going to answer openly about confidential discussions. Looking back I don't blame them, but at the time I didn't get it.

Finally I just researched how to do a FOIA request and submitted one. App State STILL refused to answer. They sent me a polite letter saying more or less to pound sand. I would have basically had to get a lawyer and I was 19 years old so that wasn't an option. So I got creative and I sent a FOIA request to Georgia Southern since I knew they were in a similar situation. They asked me for $20 to cover printing costs, which I provided. In return I immediately got a giant stack of emails and charts between the Sun Belt/Georgia Southern which included information about App State. I posted it on my blog and actually NBC Sports cited my blog as a source. Here's one example of a site citing me: https://www.aseaofred.com/new-informati ... alignment/. At the time I was really proud of myself.

What did I get in return for that "journalism"? About half of the people who read the articles called me a liar said I made the whole thing up for clicks. The school didn't trust me for years and it was hard for me to get interviews even when I worked at 247. And in the end we all found out we were going to the Sun Belt soon enough when the news was official anyway. So I burned bridges basically for nothing.

This situation underscores exactly why having a dedicated journalist and beat writer is so important, in my opinion. I’m sorry you had to deal with being called a liar and similar accusations—it’s an unfortunate part of journalism today, and it’s a tough job to say the least.

To be clear, I’m in no way saying 24/7 is bad—it’s not. The issue is that, at this point, it doesn’t feel like a paid-for service because the information being provided can often be found for free elsewhere. If we had a beat writer or two, I bet that would change. It could also change with this current staff; I’m not dismissing the role they play because the staff definitely matters.

That said, a great journalist knows how to navigate challenges, including difficult access or tight-lipped staff. When we had coverage from writers like Strelow and Wilkerson-New, we had access to insights we don’t have now. They excelled at asking the right questions and providing the context needed for readers to draw their own conclusions—without burning bridges. They didn’t even have to spell out the answers; the context clues they provided allowed readers to piece things together themselves. A lack of them and the 24/7 coverage is actually why I joined this board despite the warnings of the toxicity.

Additionally, having beat writers meant more information for everyone, including the "little guys." Press conferences played a significant role, and the administration often chose to share information directly because they knew it was going to come out anyway—it was better to frame it in their own words.

[Pikapp79]

The problem with the current 247 sports setup is he won't ask the hard questions. Heck, the school newspaper journalists ask better questions and Clark would even say something like "this is what we need in this room!" when he asked the hard questions.

It isn't a matter of getting interviews at 247. It's a matter of getting answers to the people that pay for the site. You can get those answers elsewhere for free -- because the employees elsewhere ask the hard questions. It's not our job to do the research. That is the job of the journalist. 247 doesn't have a journalist.

WIthout Firemoose, 247 would essentially be a fan blog with zero information.

Let me give you a specific example of how hard it is to do real journalism and maintain access. Keep in mind this story takes place with a different administration at App State so no reflection on the current people there. When I ran AppStateNation (pre 247) I was frustrated that all of these "journalists" weren't getting any info about conference realignment (we were trying to get in Sun Belt/CUSA at the time). You could ask all the questions you wanted but they of course weren't going to answer openly about confidential discussions. Looking back I don't blame them, but at the time I didn't get it.

Finally I just researched how to do a FOIA request and submitted one. App State STILL refused to answer. They sent me a polite letter saying more or less to pound sand. I would have basically had to get a lawyer and I was 19 years old so that wasn't an option. So I got creative and I sent a FOIA request to Georgia Southern since I knew they were in a similar situation. They asked me for $20 to cover printing costs, which I provided. In return I immediately got a giant stack of emails and charts between the Sun Belt/Georgia Southern which included information about App State. I posted it on my blog and actually NBC Sports cited my blog as a source. Here's one example of a site citing me: https://www.aseaofred.com/new-informati ... alignment/. At the time I was really proud of myself.

What did I get in return for that "journalism"? About half of the people who read the articles called me a liar said I made the whole thing up for clicks. The school didn't trust me for years and it was hard for me to get interviews even when I worked at 247. And in the end we all found out we were going to the Sun Belt soon enough when the news was official anyway. So I burned bridges basically for nothing.

This situation underscores exactly why having a dedicated journalist and beat writer is so important, in my opinion. I’m sorry you had to deal with being called a liar and similar accusations—it’s an unfortunate part of journalism today, and it’s a tough job to say the least.

When we had coverage from writers like Strelow and Wilkerson-New, we had access to insights we don’t have now. They excelled at asking the right questions and providing the context needed for readers to draw their own conclusions—without burning bridges. They didn’t even have to spell out the answers; the context clues they provided allowed readers to piece things together themselves.

Additionally, having beat writers like them meant more information for everyone, including the "little guys." Press conferences played a significant role, and the administration often chose to share information directly because they knew it was going to come out anyway—it was better to frame it in their own words.

If you are a journalist covering a program you better kiss administration butt. The same with radio broadcast. If you become anything but a yes man you are history. Just take it for what it’s worth.

[Stonewall]

Ashford is a no go.

[falcoapp]

Ashford is a no go.

I think that's ok. I feel pretty good that we have a decent starter between Swann and Wiles.

[BambooRdApp]

Figured that would be the case since Swann committed. Ashford probably looking for an almost guaranteed starting spot. From what I viewed yesterday, he should contact Liberty if they do not have someone already signed.

[311neers]

Figured that would be the case since Swann committed. Ashford probably looking for an almost guaranteed starting spot. From what I viewed yesterday, he should contact Liberty if they do not have someone already signed.

He’s committed to Wake as of this morning.

[Saint3333]

I appreciate anyone providing another outlet for App State sports.

Even if it softball questions, it provides another outlet.

We don’t exactly have a ton of press asking questions at the weekly pressers.