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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:54 pm

Gonzo wrote:
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What does everyone think about Christensen?
Solid dude who has coached some of the best. His level of impact will depend on his role in Boone. He may be here more to support CDL more so than as an on the field coach.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by T-Dog » Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:27 pm

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Overall benefit to who? I’ve got no problem with “bad faith” answers since they aren’t made in bad faith. Clark’s media availability was typically early Monday morning. Some of the injuries aren’t known and to the extent until later that afternoon or throughout the week. I don’t see a coach protecting the integrity of his program at the expense of ‘trust’ with fanbase. It seems that these nit-pick comments and criticisms only manifest when the fanbase is upset with the on field product. It’s petty.
I fully believe there is an overall benefit to the fanbase for a seven-figure-earning head coach to be more transparent when it comes to player injuries. Especially when people care to the extent that us App State fans care, which is a bragging point to other fanbases. And especially since that coach is in charge of a taxpayer-funded university's football team.

I criticized Drinkwitz for barring the defensive coaches from talking to the media. I criticized Clark for his comments on Virgil and others when things went well. Satterfield was hyper-paranoid at the end of his tenure. If Dowell is equally as withholding, I'll criticize him there. Problem is that many media people are hesitant to criticize as the landscape is becoming more about access than being impartial.

If the early Monday press conference is an issue, then here's a solution. Have a Wednesday presser like many other peer programs have. Open it up to Zoom so off-mountain media can take part easier. There's been times where Clark said "ask me later in the week" to reporters knowing there wouldn't be a chance to ask.

Also, my reasoning has 0% to do with gambling. I don't gamble on sports or anything besides maybe a Powerball ticket once in a while. I believe betting lines involving specific college players should be illegal.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:21 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:54 pm
[quote=Gonzo post_id=408692 time=<a href="tel:1736712201">1736712201</a> user_id=550]
What does everyone think about Christensen?
Solid dude who has coached some of the best. His level of impact will depend on his role in Boone. He may be here more to support CDL more so than as an on the field coach.
[/quote]

Why would Coach DLo bring on a storied QB coach, include him in recruiting of QBs and not have him help with the QBs on the field? Think logically for a second….

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:42 pm

ASUFan4863 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:21 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:54 pm
[quote=Gonzo post_id=408692 time=<a href="tel:1736712201">1736712201</a> user_id=550]
What does everyone think about Christensen?
Solid dude who has coached some of the best. His level of impact will depend on his role in Boone. He may be here more to support CDL more so than as an on the field coach.
Why would Coach DLo bring on a storied QB coach, include him in recruiting of QBs and not have him help with the QBs on the field? Think logically for a second….
[/quote]

This gives me more confidence in Loggains. We have been sounding the alarms of our struggles in getting a good QB and this move shows he is serious about fixing that.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by AppGrad78 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:53 pm

Gonzo wrote:
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What does everyone think about Christensen?
If I were to draw up an aspirational resume for an assistant coach at App, I could not have come up with a better resume than Christensen’s.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by bcoach » Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:09 pm

T-Dog wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:27 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:58 am
Overall benefit to who? I’ve got no problem with “bad faith” answers since they aren’t made in bad faith. Clark’s media availability was typically early Monday morning. Some of the injuries aren’t known and to the extent until later that afternoon or throughout the week. I don’t see a coach protecting the integrity of his program at the expense of ‘trust’ with fanbase. It seems that these nit-pick comments and criticisms only manifest when the fanbase is upset with the on field product. It’s petty.
I fully believe there is an overall benefit to the fanbase for a seven-figure-earning head coach to be more transparent when it comes to player injuries. Especially when people care to the extent that us App State fans care, which is a bragging point to other fanbases. And especially since that coach is in charge of a taxpayer-funded university's football team.

I criticized Drinkwitz for barring the defensive coaches from talking to the media. I criticized Clark for his comments on Virgil and others when things went well. Satterfield was hyper-paranoid at the end of his tenure. If Dowell is equally as withholding, I'll criticize him there. Problem is that many media people are hesitant to criticize as the landscape is becoming more about access than being impartial.

If the early Monday press conference is an issue, then here's a solution. Have a Wednesday presser like many other peer programs have. Open it up to Zoom so off-mountain media can take part easier. There's been times where Clark said "ask me later in the week" to reporters knowing there wouldn't be a chance to ask.

Also, my reasoning has 0% to do with gambling. I don't gamble on sports or anything besides maybe a Powerball ticket once in a while. I believe betting lines involving specific college players should be illegal.
Still not getting what that benifit is regardless of how much the coach makes. What is the actual benefit?

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by 311neers » Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:10 pm

bcoach wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:09 pm
T-Dog wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:27 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:58 am
Overall benefit to who? I’ve got no problem with “bad faith” answers since they aren’t made in bad faith. Clark’s media availability was typically early Monday morning. Some of the injuries aren’t known and to the extent until later that afternoon or throughout the week. I don’t see a coach protecting the integrity of his program at the expense of ‘trust’ with fanbase. It seems that these nit-pick comments and criticisms only manifest when the fanbase is upset with the on field product. It’s petty.
I fully believe there is an overall benefit to the fanbase for a seven-figure-earning head coach to be more transparent when it comes to player injuries. Especially when people care to the extent that us App State fans care, which is a bragging point to other fanbases. And especially since that coach is in charge of a taxpayer-funded university's football team.

I criticized Drinkwitz for barring the defensive coaches from talking to the media. I criticized Clark for his comments on Virgil and others when things went well. Satterfield was hyper-paranoid at the end of his tenure. If Dowell is equally as withholding, I'll criticize him there. Problem is that many media people are hesitant to criticize as the landscape is becoming more about access than being impartial.

If the early Monday press conference is an issue, then here's a solution. Have a Wednesday presser like many other peer programs have. Open it up to Zoom so off-mountain media can take part easier. There's been times where Clark said "ask me later in the week" to reporters knowing there wouldn't be a chance to ask.

Also, my reasoning has 0% to do with gambling. I don't gamble on sports or anything besides maybe a Powerball ticket once in a while. I believe betting lines involving specific college players should be illegal.
Still not getting what that benifit is regardless of how much the coach makes. What is the actual benefit?
Betting has gotten very very big.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by ASUTodd » Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:31 pm

bcoach wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:09 pm
T-Dog wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:27 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:58 am
Overall benefit to who? I’ve got no problem with “bad faith” answers since they aren’t made in bad faith. Clark’s media availability was typically early Monday morning. Some of the injuries aren’t known and to the extent until later that afternoon or throughout the week. I don’t see a coach protecting the integrity of his program at the expense of ‘trust’ with fanbase. It seems that these nit-pick comments and criticisms only manifest when the fanbase is upset with the on field product. It’s petty.
I fully believe there is an overall benefit to the fanbase for a seven-figure-earning head coach to be more transparent when it comes to player injuries. Especially when people care to the extent that us App State fans care, which is a bragging point to other fanbases. And especially since that coach is in charge of a taxpayer-funded university's football team.

I criticized Drinkwitz for barring the defensive coaches from talking to the media. I criticized Clark for his comments on Virgil and others when things went well. Satterfield was hyper-paranoid at the end of his tenure. If Dowell is equally as withholding, I'll criticize him there. Problem is that many media people are hesitant to criticize as the landscape is becoming more about access than being impartial.

If the early Monday press conference is an issue, then here's a solution. Have a Wednesday presser like many other peer programs have. Open it up to Zoom so off-mountain media can take part easier. There's been times where Clark said "ask me later in the week" to reporters knowing there wouldn't be a chance to ask.

Also, my reasoning has 0% to do with gambling. I don't gamble on sports or anything besides maybe a Powerball ticket once in a while. I believe betting lines involving specific college players should be illegal.
Still not getting what that benifit is regardless of how much the coach makes. What is the actual benefit?
Not so much a benefit as it seems Clark was either a)flat out lying about the injuries (which causes the fans to not trust him....or B( he was clueless and just said we were good out of ignorance (which again erodes trust in the coach). Simple way to handle it, is to say, "no comment". Another way is to pull a Coach Harbaugh and tell everyone he's not a medical professional and cannot comment on any injuries. When a coach flat out lies it looks like he is hiding something. To me, it felt like Clark answered as he did because he didn't want people to realize how hurt his players were...only because they weren't getting strength and conditioning like they should have been. If players continue to get hurt one might start asking questions of the coaching staff, and goodness knows we can't do that. He doesn't have to tell the world someone is hurt, just don't comment.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by Seattleapp » Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:39 pm

ASUTodd wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:31 pm
bcoach wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:09 pm
T-Dog wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:27 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:58 am
Overall benefit to who? I’ve got no problem with “bad faith” answers since they aren’t made in bad faith. Clark’s media availability was typically early Monday morning. Some of the injuries aren’t known and to the extent until later that afternoon or throughout the week. I don’t see a coach protecting the integrity of his program at the expense of ‘trust’ with fanbase. It seems that these nit-pick comments and criticisms only manifest when the fanbase is upset with the on field product. It’s petty.
I fully believe there is an overall benefit to the fanbase for a seven-figure-earning head coach to be more transparent when it comes to player injuries. Especially when people care to the extent that us App State fans care, which is a bragging point to other fanbases. And especially since that coach is in charge of a taxpayer-funded university's football team.

I criticized Drinkwitz for barring the defensive coaches from talking to the media. I criticized Clark for his comments on Virgil and others when things went well. Satterfield was hyper-paranoid at the end of his tenure. If Dowell is equally as withholding, I'll criticize him there. Problem is that many media people are hesitant to criticize as the landscape is becoming more about access than being impartial.

If the early Monday press conference is an issue, then here's a solution. Have a Wednesday presser like many other peer programs have. Open it up to Zoom so off-mountain media can take part easier. There's been times where Clark said "ask me later in the week" to reporters knowing there wouldn't be a chance to ask.

Also, my reasoning has 0% to do with gambling. I don't gamble on sports or anything besides maybe a Powerball ticket once in a while. I believe betting lines involving specific college players should be illegal.
Still not getting what that benifit is regardless of how much the coach makes. What is the actual benefit?
Not so much a benefit as it seems Clark was either a)flat out lying about the injuries (which causes the fans to not trust him....or B( he was clueless and just said we were good out of ignorance (which again erodes trust in the coach). Simple way to handle it, is to say, "no comment". Another way is to pull a Coach Harbaugh and tell everyone he's not a medical professional and cannot comment on any injuries. When a coach flat out lies it looks like he is hiding something. To me, it felt like Clark answered as he did because he didn't want people to realize how hurt his players were...only because they weren't getting strength and conditioning like they should have been. If players continue to get hurt one might start asking questions of the coaching staff, and goodness knows we can't do that. He doesn't have to tell the world someone is hurt, just don't comment.
All you lacked was adding Clark kicked puppies. 😂.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by ASUTodd » Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:01 pm

Seattleapp wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:39 pm
ASUTodd wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:31 pm
bcoach wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:09 pm
T-Dog wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:27 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:58 am
Overall benefit to who? I’ve got no problem with “bad faith” answers since they aren’t made in bad faith. Clark’s media availability was typically early Monday morning. Some of the injuries aren’t known and to the extent until later that afternoon or throughout the week. I don’t see a coach protecting the integrity of his program at the expense of ‘trust’ with fanbase. It seems that these nit-pick comments and criticisms only manifest when the fanbase is upset with the on field product. It’s petty.
I fully believe there is an overall benefit to the fanbase for a seven-figure-earning head coach to be more transparent when it comes to player injuries. Especially when people care to the extent that us App State fans care, which is a bragging point to other fanbases. And especially since that coach is in charge of a taxpayer-funded university's football team.

I criticized Drinkwitz for barring the defensive coaches from talking to the media. I criticized Clark for his comments on Virgil and others when things went well. Satterfield was hyper-paranoid at the end of his tenure. If Dowell is equally as withholding, I'll criticize him there. Problem is that many media people are hesitant to criticize as the landscape is becoming more about access than being impartial.

If the early Monday press conference is an issue, then here's a solution. Have a Wednesday presser like many other peer programs have. Open it up to Zoom so off-mountain media can take part easier. There's been times where Clark said "ask me later in the week" to reporters knowing there wouldn't be a chance to ask.

Also, my reasoning has 0% to do with gambling. I don't gamble on sports or anything besides maybe a Powerball ticket once in a while. I believe betting lines involving specific college players should be illegal.
Still not getting what that benifit is regardless of how much the coach makes. What is the actual benefit?
Not so much a benefit as it seems Clark was either a)flat out lying about the injuries (which causes the fans to not trust him....or B( he was clueless and just said we were good out of ignorance (which again erodes trust in the coach). Simple way to handle it, is to say, "no comment". Another way is to pull a Coach Harbaugh and tell everyone he's not a medical professional and cannot comment on any injuries. When a coach flat out lies it looks like he is hiding something. To me, it felt like Clark answered as he did because he didn't want people to realize how hurt his players were...only because they weren't getting strength and conditioning like they should have been. If players continue to get hurt one might start asking questions of the coaching staff, and goodness knows we can't do that. He doesn't have to tell the world someone is hurt, just don't comment.
All you lacked was adding Clark kicked puppies. 😂.
Did he lie about it? Was he ignorant of the injuries? It's one or the other. He asked, I gave an opinion. Clark might be a cat guy and hate dogs. I don't know.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:05 pm

T-Dog wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:27 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:58 am
Overall benefit to who? I’ve got no problem with “bad faith” answers since they aren’t made in bad faith. Clark’s media availability was typically early Monday morning. Some of the injuries aren’t known and to the extent until later that afternoon or throughout the week. I don’t see a coach protecting the integrity of his program at the expense of ‘trust’ with fanbase. It seems that these nit-pick comments and criticisms only manifest when the fanbase is upset with the on field product. It’s petty.
I fully believe there is an overall benefit to the fanbase for a seven-figure-earning head coach to be more transparent when it comes to player injuries. Especially when people care to the extent that us App State fans care, which is a bragging point to other fanbases. And especially since that coach is in charge of a taxpayer-funded university's football team.

I criticized Drinkwitz for barring the defensive coaches from talking to the media. I criticized Clark for his comments on Virgil and others when things went well. Satterfield was hyper-paranoid at the end of his tenure. If Dowell is equally as withholding, I'll criticize him there. Problem is that many media people are hesitant to criticize as the landscape is becoming more about access than being impartial.

If the early Monday press conference is an issue, then here's a solution. Have a Wednesday presser like many other peer programs have. Open it up to Zoom so off-mountain media can take part easier. There's been times where Clark said "ask me later in the week" to reporters knowing there wouldn't be a chance to ask.

Also, my reasoning has 0% to do with gambling. I don't gamble on sports or anything besides maybe a Powerball ticket once in a while. I believe betting lines involving specific college players should be illegal.
Agree to disagree. I appreciate the cogent response but it still feels like folks just want to know more than they need to know. Maybe a “we are not going to comment on injuries” is the best approach but people will still hate that response.

I do like the idea of a Zoom call for media off the mountain if there is a legitimate need for such things, but I doubt that there would be any more information given than what is shared on Monday.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:08 pm

ASUTodd wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:01 pm
Seattleapp wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:39 pm
ASUTodd wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:31 pm
bcoach wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:09 pm
T-Dog wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:27 pm


I fully believe there is an overall benefit to the fanbase for a seven-figure-earning head coach to be more transparent when it comes to player injuries. Especially when people care to the extent that us App State fans care, which is a bragging point to other fanbases. And especially since that coach is in charge of a taxpayer-funded university's football team.

I criticized Drinkwitz for barring the defensive coaches from talking to the media. I criticized Clark for his comments on Virgil and others when things went well. Satterfield was hyper-paranoid at the end of his tenure. If Dowell is equally as withholding, I'll criticize him there. Problem is that many media people are hesitant to criticize as the landscape is becoming more about access than being impartial.

If the early Monday press conference is an issue, then here's a solution. Have a Wednesday presser like many other peer programs have. Open it up to Zoom so off-mountain media can take part easier. There's been times where Clark said "ask me later in the week" to reporters knowing there wouldn't be a chance to ask.

Also, my reasoning has 0% to do with gambling. I don't gamble on sports or anything besides maybe a Powerball ticket once in a while. I believe betting lines involving specific college players should be illegal.
Still not getting what that benifit is regardless of how much the coach makes. What is the actual benefit?
Not so much a benefit as it seems Clark was either a)flat out lying about the injuries (which causes the fans to not trust him....or B( he was clueless and just said we were good out of ignorance (which again erodes trust in the coach). Simple way to handle it, is to say, "no comment". Another way is to pull a Coach Harbaugh and tell everyone he's not a medical professional and cannot comment on any injuries. When a coach flat out lies it looks like he is hiding something. To me, it felt like Clark answered as he did because he didn't want people to realize how hurt his players were...only because they weren't getting strength and conditioning like they should have been. If players continue to get hurt one might start asking questions of the coaching staff, and goodness knows we can't do that. He doesn't have to tell the world someone is hurt, just don't comment.
All you lacked was adding Clark kicked puppies. 😂.
Did he lie about it? Was he ignorant of the injuries? It's one or the other. He asked, I gave an opinion. Clark might be a cat guy and hate dogs. I don't know.
I guess the answer to your question depends your opinion of the source. There were some injuries, Clark’s foot being one where e the severity of the injury were not known until later in the week after MRIs and scans were completed. In any instance, why is it relevant that anyone know?

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by ASUTodd » Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:38 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:08 pm
ASUTodd wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:01 pm
Seattleapp wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:39 pm
ASUTodd wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:31 pm
bcoach wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:09 pm

Still not getting what that benifit is regardless of how much the coach makes. What is the actual benefit?
Not so much a benefit as it seems Clark was either a)flat out lying about the injuries (which causes the fans to not trust him....or B( he was clueless and just said we were good out of ignorance (which again erodes trust in the coach). Simple way to handle it, is to say, "no comment". Another way is to pull a Coach Harbaugh and tell everyone he's not a medical professional and cannot comment on any injuries. When a coach flat out lies it looks like he is hiding something. To me, it felt like Clark answered as he did because he didn't want people to realize how hurt his players were...only because they weren't getting strength and conditioning like they should have been. If players continue to get hurt one might start asking questions of the coaching staff, and goodness knows we can't do that. He doesn't have to tell the world someone is hurt, just don't comment.
All you lacked was adding Clark kicked puppies. 😂.
Did he lie about it? Was he ignorant of the injuries? It's one or the other. He asked, I gave an opinion. Clark might be a cat guy and hate dogs. I don't know.
I guess the answer to your question depends your opinion of the source. There were some injuries, Clark’s foot being one where e the severity of the injury were not known until later in the week after MRIs and scans were completed. In any instance, why is it relevant that anyone know?
Again, not relevant that anyone knows..... My point is he should just say no comment and move on. Lying or talking out of ignorance does nothing to help anyone.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by Bootsy » Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:44 pm

bcoach wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:09 pm
T-Dog wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:27 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:58 am
Overall benefit to who? I’ve got no problem with “bad faith” answers since they aren’t made in bad faith. Clark’s media availability was typically early Monday morning. Some of the injuries aren’t known and to the extent until later that afternoon or throughout the week. I don’t see a coach protecting the integrity of his program at the expense of ‘trust’ with fanbase. It seems that these nit-pick comments and criticisms only manifest when the fanbase is upset with the on field product. It’s petty.
I fully believe there is an overall benefit to the fanbase for a seven-figure-earning head coach to be more transparent when it comes to player injuries. Especially when people care to the extent that us App State fans care, which is a bragging point to other fanbases. And especially since that coach is in charge of a taxpayer-funded university's football team.

I criticized Drinkwitz for barring the defensive coaches from talking to the media. I criticized Clark for his comments on Virgil and others when things went well. Satterfield was hyper-paranoid at the end of his tenure. If Dowell is equally as withholding, I'll criticize him there. Problem is that many media people are hesitant to criticize as the landscape is becoming more about access than being impartial.

If the early Monday press conference is an issue, then here's a solution. Have a Wednesday presser like many other peer programs have. Open it up to Zoom so off-mountain media can take part easier. There's been times where Clark said "ask me later in the week" to reporters knowing there wouldn't be a chance to ask.

Also, my reasoning has 0% to do with gambling. I don't gamble on sports or anything besides maybe a Powerball ticket once in a while. I believe betting lines involving specific college players should be illegal.
Still not getting what that benifit is regardless of how much the coach makes. What is the actual benefit?
There's no benefit, except for letting next week’s opponent know where chinks in the armor lie. Right?

And Loggains won't be any more forthcoming about injuries, so maybe everyone should level-set their expectations?

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:05 pm

ASUTodd wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:38 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:08 pm
ASUTodd wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:01 pm
Seattleapp wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:39 pm
ASUTodd wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:31 pm

Not so much a benefit as it seems Clark was either a)flat out lying about the injuries (which causes the fans to not trust him....or B( he was clueless and just said we were good out of ignorance (which again erodes trust in the coach). Simple way to handle it, is to say, "no comment". Another way is to pull a Coach Harbaugh and tell everyone he's not a medical professional and cannot comment on any injuries. When a coach flat out lies it looks like he is hiding something. To me, it felt like Clark answered as he did because he didn't want people to realize how hurt his players were...only because they weren't getting strength and conditioning like they should have been. If players continue to get hurt one might start asking questions of the coaching staff, and goodness knows we can't do that. He doesn't have to tell the world someone is hurt, just don't comment.
All you lacked was adding Clark kicked puppies. 😂.
Did he lie about it? Was he ignorant of the injuries? It's one or the other. He asked, I gave an opinion. Clark might be a cat guy and hate dogs. I don't know.
I guess the answer to your question depends your opinion of the source. There were some injuries, Clark’s foot being one where e the severity of the injury were not known until later in the week after MRIs and scans were completed. In any instance, why is it relevant that anyone know?
Again, not relevant that anyone knows..... My point is he should just say no comment and move on. Lying or talking out of ignorance does nothing to help anyone.
I didn’t see his comments as either but OK.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by JTApps1 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:46 pm

311neers wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:10 pm
bcoach wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:09 pm
T-Dog wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:27 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:58 am
Overall benefit to who? I’ve got no problem with “bad faith” answers since they aren’t made in bad faith. Clark’s media availability was typically early Monday morning. Some of the injuries aren’t known and to the extent until later that afternoon or throughout the week. I don’t see a coach protecting the integrity of his program at the expense of ‘trust’ with fanbase. It seems that these nit-pick comments and criticisms only manifest when the fanbase is upset with the on field product. It’s petty.
I fully believe there is an overall benefit to the fanbase for a seven-figure-earning head coach to be more transparent when it comes to player injuries. Especially when people care to the extent that us App State fans care, which is a bragging point to other fanbases. And especially since that coach is in charge of a taxpayer-funded university's football team.

I criticized Drinkwitz for barring the defensive coaches from talking to the media. I criticized Clark for his comments on Virgil and others when things went well. Satterfield was hyper-paranoid at the end of his tenure. If Dowell is equally as withholding, I'll criticize him there. Problem is that many media people are hesitant to criticize as the landscape is becoming more about access than being impartial.

If the early Monday press conference is an issue, then here's a solution. Have a Wednesday presser like many other peer programs have. Open it up to Zoom so off-mountain media can take part easier. There's been times where Clark said "ask me later in the week" to reporters knowing there wouldn't be a chance to ask.

Also, my reasoning has 0% to do with gambling. I don't gamble on sports or anything besides maybe a Powerball ticket once in a while. I believe betting lines involving specific college players should be illegal.
Still not getting what that benifit is regardless of how much the coach makes. What is the actual benefit?
Betting has gotten very very big.
Speaking of betting, how about we talk to Harrah's Cherokee about logos on the field. They have a ton of cash.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by bcoach » Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:24 am

ASUTodd wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:31 pm
bcoach wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:09 pm
T-Dog wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:27 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:58 am
Overall benefit to who? I’ve got no problem with “bad faith” answers since they aren’t made in bad faith. Clark’s media availability was typically early Monday morning. Some of the injuries aren’t known and to the extent until later that afternoon or throughout the week. I don’t see a coach protecting the integrity of his program at the expense of ‘trust’ with fanbase. It seems that these nit-pick comments and criticisms only manifest when the fanbase is upset with the on field product. It’s petty.
I fully believe there is an overall benefit to the fanbase for a seven-figure-earning head coach to be more transparent when it comes to player injuries. Especially when people care to the extent that us App State fans care, which is a bragging point to other fanbases. And especially since that coach is in charge of a taxpayer-funded university's football team.

I criticized Drinkwitz for barring the defensive coaches from talking to the media. I criticized Clark for his comments on Virgil and others when things went well. Satterfield was hyper-paranoid at the end of his tenure. If Dowell is equally as withholding, I'll criticize him there. Problem is that many media people are hesitant to criticize as the landscape is becoming more about access than being impartial.

If the early Monday press conference is an issue, then here's a solution. Have a Wednesday presser like many other peer programs have. Open it up to Zoom so off-mountain media can take part easier. There's been times where Clark said "ask me later in the week" to reporters knowing there wouldn't be a chance to ask.

Also, my reasoning has 0% to do with gambling. I don't gamble on sports or anything besides maybe a Powerball ticket once in a while. I believe betting lines involving specific college players should be illegal.
Still not getting what that benifit is regardless of how much the coach makes. What is the actual benefit?
Not so much a benefit as it seems Clark was either a)flat out lying about the injuries (which causes the fans to not trust him....or B( he was clueless and just said we were good out of ignorance (which again erodes trust in the coach). Simple way to handle it, is to say, "no comment". Another way is to pull a Coach Harbaugh and tell everyone he's not a medical professional and cannot comment on any injuries. When a coach flat out lies it looks like he is hiding something. To me, it felt like Clark answered as he did because he didn't want people to realize how hurt his players were...only because they weren't getting strength and conditioning like they should have been. If players continue to get hurt one might start asking questions of the coaching staff, and goodness knows we can't do that. He doesn't have to tell the world someone is hurt, just don't comment.
You said it was a benefit and now when I ask an honest question, it is not so much a benifit. It is just another opportunity to slam a guy you hate. Is he going to be in the answer to every question for the next 10 years?

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by ASUTodd » Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:52 am

bcoach wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:24 am
ASUTodd wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:31 pm
bcoach wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:09 pm
T-Dog wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:27 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:58 am
Overall benefit to who? I’ve got no problem with “bad faith” answers since they aren’t made in bad faith. Clark’s media availability was typically early Monday morning. Some of the injuries aren’t known and to the extent until later that afternoon or throughout the week. I don’t see a coach protecting the integrity of his program at the expense of ‘trust’ with fanbase. It seems that these nit-pick comments and criticisms only manifest when the fanbase is upset with the on field product. It’s petty.
I fully believe there is an overall benefit to the fanbase for a seven-figure-earning head coach to be more transparent when it comes to player injuries. Especially when people care to the extent that us App State fans care, which is a bragging point to other fanbases. And especially since that coach is in charge of a taxpayer-funded university's football team.

I criticized Drinkwitz for barring the defensive coaches from talking to the media. I criticized Clark for his comments on Virgil and others when things went well. Satterfield was hyper-paranoid at the end of his tenure. If Dowell is equally as withholding, I'll criticize him there. Problem is that many media people are hesitant to criticize as the landscape is becoming more about access than being impartial.

If the early Monday press conference is an issue, then here's a solution. Have a Wednesday presser like many other peer programs have. Open it up to Zoom so off-mountain media can take part easier. There's been times where Clark said "ask me later in the week" to reporters knowing there wouldn't be a chance to ask.

Also, my reasoning has 0% to do with gambling. I don't gamble on sports or anything besides maybe a Powerball ticket once in a while. I believe betting lines involving specific college players should be illegal.
Still not getting what that benifit is regardless of how much the coach makes. What is the actual benefit?
Not so much a benefit as it seems Clark was either a)flat out lying about the injuries (which causes the fans to not trust him....or B( he was clueless and just said we were good out of ignorance (which again erodes trust in the coach). Simple way to handle it, is to say, "no comment". Another way is to pull a Coach Harbaugh and tell everyone he's not a medical professional and cannot comment on any injuries. When a coach flat out lies it looks like he is hiding something. To me, it felt like Clark answered as he did because he didn't want people to realize how hurt his players were...only because they weren't getting strength and conditioning like they should have been. If players continue to get hurt one might start asking questions of the coaching staff, and goodness knows we can't do that. He doesn't have to tell the world someone is hurt, just don't comment.
You said it was a benefit and now when I ask an honest question, it is not so much a benifit. It is just another opportunity to slam a guy you hate. Is he going to be in the answer to every question for the next 10 years?
Hold up big dog..... you need to take a look back. I wasn't the original poster you were talking with about this. I never said it was a benefit. I was trying to clarify how I looked at it. You and the other posters were discussing Clark's answers about injuries. I just chimed in on the open discussion in an online forum to give other insights as to how someone may view a situation.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by ASUTodd » Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:53 am

bcoach wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:24 am
ASUTodd wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:31 pm
bcoach wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:09 pm
T-Dog wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:27 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:58 am
Overall benefit to who? I’ve got no problem with “bad faith” answers since they aren’t made in bad faith. Clark’s media availability was typically early Monday morning. Some of the injuries aren’t known and to the extent until later that afternoon or throughout the week. I don’t see a coach protecting the integrity of his program at the expense of ‘trust’ with fanbase. It seems that these nit-pick comments and criticisms only manifest when the fanbase is upset with the on field product. It’s petty.
I fully believe there is an overall benefit to the fanbase for a seven-figure-earning head coach to be more transparent when it comes to player injuries. Especially when people care to the extent that us App State fans care, which is a bragging point to other fanbases. And especially since that coach is in charge of a taxpayer-funded university's football team.

I criticized Drinkwitz for barring the defensive coaches from talking to the media. I criticized Clark for his comments on Virgil and others when things went well. Satterfield was hyper-paranoid at the end of his tenure. If Dowell is equally as withholding, I'll criticize him there. Problem is that many media people are hesitant to criticize as the landscape is becoming more about access than being impartial.

If the early Monday press conference is an issue, then here's a solution. Have a Wednesday presser like many other peer programs have. Open it up to Zoom so off-mountain media can take part easier. There's been times where Clark said "ask me later in the week" to reporters knowing there wouldn't be a chance to ask.

Also, my reasoning has 0% to do with gambling. I don't gamble on sports or anything besides maybe a Powerball ticket once in a while. I believe betting lines involving specific college players should be illegal.
Still not getting what that benifit is regardless of how much the coach makes. What is the actual benefit?
Not so much a benefit as it seems Clark was either a)flat out lying about the injuries (which causes the fans to not trust him....or B( he was clueless and just said we were good out of ignorance (which again erodes trust in the coach). Simple way to handle it, is to say, "no comment". Another way is to pull a Coach Harbaugh and tell everyone he's not a medical professional and cannot comment on any injuries. When a coach flat out lies it looks like he is hiding something. To me, it felt like Clark answered as he did because he didn't want people to realize how hurt his players were...only because they weren't getting strength and conditioning like they should have been. If players continue to get hurt one might start asking questions of the coaching staff, and goodness knows we can't do that. He doesn't have to tell the world someone is hurt, just don't comment.
You said it was a benefit and now when I ask an honest question, it is not so much a benifit. It is just another opportunity to slam a guy you hate. Is he going to be in the answer to every question for the next 10 years?
Don't hate the guy personally. Hate what he did to our program. There's a difference but you defends of all things Clark wouldn't see that.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by EastHallApp » Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:17 am

bcoach wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:09 pm
T-Dog wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:27 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:58 am
Overall benefit to who? I’ve got no problem with “bad faith” answers since they aren’t made in bad faith. Clark’s media availability was typically early Monday morning. Some of the injuries aren’t known and to the extent until later that afternoon or throughout the week. I don’t see a coach protecting the integrity of his program at the expense of ‘trust’ with fanbase. It seems that these nit-pick comments and criticisms only manifest when the fanbase is upset with the on field product. It’s petty.
I fully believe there is an overall benefit to the fanbase for a seven-figure-earning head coach to be more transparent when it comes to player injuries. Especially when people care to the extent that us App State fans care, which is a bragging point to other fanbases. And especially since that coach is in charge of a taxpayer-funded university's football team.

I criticized Drinkwitz for barring the defensive coaches from talking to the media. I criticized Clark for his comments on Virgil and others when things went well. Satterfield was hyper-paranoid at the end of his tenure. If Dowell is equally as withholding, I'll criticize him there. Problem is that many media people are hesitant to criticize as the landscape is becoming more about access than being impartial.

If the early Monday press conference is an issue, then here's a solution. Have a Wednesday presser like many other peer programs have. Open it up to Zoom so off-mountain media can take part easier. There's been times where Clark said "ask me later in the week" to reporters knowing there wouldn't be a chance to ask.

Also, my reasoning has 0% to do with gambling. I don't gamble on sports or anything besides maybe a Powerball ticket once in a while. I believe betting lines involving specific college players should be illegal.
Still not getting what that benifit is regardless of how much the coach makes. What is the actual benefit?
I really don't think there is one, and it's kind of myopic to act like this is something that's peculiar to App. Teams in all sports and all levels try to obscure injury info because, rightly or wrongly, they think it might help the opponent. The Patriots used to list every single person on the injury report as "questionable." NHL teams won't get more specific than "upper-body" or "lower-body."

And bringing up "taxpayer-funded" is just funny. Like it's some public interest info that we should just FOIA to force them to tell us.

I think the real answer is that passionate fans just want to know stuff about the team, so some will back-fit reasons why they think they are entitled to that information.

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