In theory, yes, but that assumes a product that people want to see.BambooRdApp wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 7:43 amI have not reviewed any financial information related to East Side.. however, in theory, long-term, isn't the revenue from the east supposed to provide more revenue so we can get better players? If revenue from East side can be used for nil.
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How many seats will be included in the east side expansion and how much does it cost?
Assuming it's $80M (up from the $50M three years ago before construction costs skyrocketed) and 3k seats at $1,500 each, that's a 18 year payback. That doesn't pencil out. If we receive large donations for a portion of it that would help.
Sounds like a lot of debt...
Assuming it's $80M (up from the $50M three years ago before construction costs skyrocketed) and 3k seats at $1,500 each, that's a 18 year payback. That doesn't pencil out. If we receive large donations for a portion of it that would help.
Sounds like a lot of debt...
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I haven’t seen the projections but I think your $1,500 is off by a considerable amount.Saint3333 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 9:05 amHow many seats will be included in the east side expansion and how much does it cost?
Assuming it's $80M (up from the $50M three years ago before construction costs skyrocketed) and 3k seats at $1,500 each, that's a 18 year payback. That doesn't pencil out. If we receive large donations for a portion of it that would help.
Sounds like a lot of debt...
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The irony is that is one of the primary reasons attendance is slipping.
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That is based on a premium to the current rates of the NEZ and West Tower per year, not including the capital contribution.AppGrad78 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 9:46 amI haven’t seen the projections but I think your $1,500 is off by a considerable amount.Saint3333 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 9:05 amHow many seats will be included in the east side expansion and how much does it cost?
Assuming it's $80M (up from the $50M three years ago before construction costs skyrocketed) and 3k seats at $1,500 each, that's a 18 year payback. That doesn't pencil out. If we receive large donations for a portion of it that would help.
Sounds like a lot of debt...
I'm open to feedback in either direction, what's your estimate.
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Similar to West side club and the more premium seats...I believe there will be an initial contribution that will be a decent amount. Then you get into the season ticket cost.AppGrad78 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 9:46 amI haven’t seen the projections but I think your $1,500 is off by a considerable amount.Saint3333 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 9:05 amHow many seats will be included in the east side expansion and how much does it cost?
Assuming it's $80M (up from the $50M three years ago before construction costs skyrocketed) and 3k seats at $1,500 each, that's a 18 year payback. That doesn't pencil out. If we receive large donations for a portion of it that would help.
Sounds like a lot of debt...
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it depends on how much cash we have to throw at the tower. If we went into debt for the total cost- $80MM the repayment at a probably too low rate of 5% APY would be 45 years @ $4.5MM/year installments. $50MM would be closer to your estimate.Saint3333 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 10:46 amThat is based on a premium to the current rates of the NEZ and West Tower per year, not including the capital contribution.AppGrad78 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 9:46 amI haven’t seen the projections but I think your $1,500 is off by a considerable amount.Saint3333 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 9:05 amHow many seats will be included in the east side expansion and how much does it cost?
Assuming it's $80M (up from the $50M three years ago before construction costs skyrocketed) and 3k seats at $1,500 each, that's a 18 year payback. That doesn't pencil out. If we receive large donations for a portion of it that would help.
Sounds like a lot of debt...
I'm open to feedback in either direction, what's your estimate.
I agree overall that either way you spend it at what we can sell the seats doesn't seem to make sense. Add onto that if the football team doesn't turn around you won't be able to sell the seats at all and I think everyone is right that the best investment we can make short and long term is to put as much into the competitiveness of the team as possible.