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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by wb247 » Tue Dec 09, 2025 6:56 pm

bcoach wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 5:59 pm
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Tue Dec 09, 2025 11:06 am
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What if that team is good enough to make the playoff the next year?
Womp. Womp.

I was specifically thinking about ND when I said an opt-out should include a ban the following year, not the handful of 5-7 schools ahead of us in the APR.

You wanna go home and cry because you didn't make the playoffs?? You get an extra year to think about how badly the committee hurt your little feelings.

If you dont finish the regular season bowl-eligible, you shouldn't be penalized for mothballing your locker room and transitioning to off-season mode.
Why?
Integrity of the game?

Because actions should have consequences? Acting like a petulant child shouldn't be rewarded.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by Cro-Magnon App » Tue Dec 09, 2025 7:19 pm

RaleighApp, I agree on a conference championship trophy having great worth, value and meaning to players. But I was particularly referring to an essentially meaningless bowl trophy. Not much worth in today’s athletic landscape. Except the opponent is GSU and beating them would mean more to me as a fan than the trophy that represents the win. But is that how the players feel? Didn’t look like it the first half of the previous game. Like about all posters on here, I despise GSU. I hate ‘em.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by Cro-Magnon App » Tue Dec 09, 2025 7:21 pm

So teams pull out of bowls. Corporate sponsors quit putting advertisement dollars into bowl games and find other avenues to advertise. Bowl games decrease. Is this where it’s going?

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by bcoach » Tue Dec 09, 2025 9:11 pm

wb247 wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 6:56 pm
bcoach wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 5:59 pm
wb247 wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 11:06 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 9:47 am
What if that team is good enough to make the playoff the next year?
Womp. Womp.

I was specifically thinking about ND when I said an opt-out should include a ban the following year, not the handful of 5-7 schools ahead of us in the APR.

You wanna go home and cry because you didn't make the playoffs?? You get an extra year to think about how badly the committee hurt your little feelings.

If you dont finish the regular season bowl-eligible, you shouldn't be penalized for mothballing your locker room and transitioning to off-season mode.
Why?
Integrity of the game?

Because actions should have consequences? Acting like a petulant child shouldn't be rewarded.
Actually a bunch of schools turned down bowl bids. I don't understand why it should be a requirement.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by AppWyo » Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:06 pm

T-Dog wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 6:43 pm
Dowell was on the Josh Graham Show today. Said if we had to play in a Walmart parking lot, we'd do it. Said he called 4-5 seniors before accepting and they were all for playing.
Dowell Loggains was fired up; if the App fans are as excited as he is this is going to be an epic game in the Deeper than Hate rivalry.


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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Tue Dec 09, 2025 11:37 pm

bcoach wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 9:11 pm
wb247 wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 6:56 pm
bcoach wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 5:59 pm
wb247 wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 11:06 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 9:47 am
What if that team is good enough to make the playoff the next year?
Womp. Womp.

I was specifically thinking about ND when I said an opt-out should include a ban the following year, not the handful of 5-7 schools ahead of us in the APR.

You wanna go home and cry because you didn't make the playoffs?? You get an extra year to think about how badly the committee hurt your little feelings.

If you dont finish the regular season bowl-eligible, you shouldn't be penalized for mothballing your locker room and transitioning to off-season mode.
Why?
Integrity of the game?

Because actions should have consequences? Acting like a petulant child shouldn't be rewarded.
Actually a bunch of schools turned down bowl bids. I don't understand why it should be a requirement.
Exactly. Why should anyone be forced to participate? Schools have different reasons for why they decline. We are only in a game because many schools declined.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by spacemonkey » Wed Dec 10, 2025 12:06 am

bcoach wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 9:11 pm
wb247 wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 6:56 pm
bcoach wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 5:59 pm
wb247 wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 11:06 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 9:47 am
What if that team is good enough to make the playoff the next year?
Womp. Womp.

I was specifically thinking about ND when I said an opt-out should include a ban the following year, not the handful of 5-7 schools ahead of us in the APR.

You wanna go home and cry because you didn't make the playoffs?? You get an extra year to think about how badly the committee hurt your little feelings.

If you dont finish the regular season bowl-eligible, you shouldn't be penalized for mothballing your locker room and transitioning to off-season mode.
Why?
Integrity of the game?

Because actions should have consequences? Acting like a petulant child shouldn't be rewarded.
Actually a bunch of schools turned down bowl bids. I don't understand why it should be a requirement.
It is kind of a requirement for SBC because we begged ESPN to create bowls for us.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by appst89 » Wed Dec 10, 2025 5:29 am

AppWyo wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:06 pm
T-Dog wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 6:43 pm
Dowell was on the Josh Graham Show today. Said if we had to play in a Walmart parking lot, we'd do it. Said he called 4-5 seniors before accepting and they were all for playing.
Dowell Loggains was fired up; if the App fans are as excited as he is this is going to be an epic game in the Deeper than Hate rivalry.

How many positions is he going to play?

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Wed Dec 10, 2025 6:37 am

DLo definitely appears excited. Hopefully most of the guys come to play.
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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by Saint3333 » Wed Dec 10, 2025 8:07 am

I like this version of DL, that guy is great for the fan base.

I’m starting to see a trend how he interacts with external media types vs internal. Hopefully the latter changes.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by bcoach » Wed Dec 10, 2025 11:10 am

spacemonkey wrote:
Wed Dec 10, 2025 12:06 am
bcoach wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 9:11 pm
wb247 wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 6:56 pm
bcoach wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 5:59 pm
wb247 wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 11:06 am


Womp. Womp.

I was specifically thinking about ND when I said an opt-out should include a ban the following year, not the handful of 5-7 schools ahead of us in the APR.

You wanna go home and cry because you didn't make the playoffs?? You get an extra year to think about how badly the committee hurt your little feelings.

If you dont finish the regular season bowl-eligible, you shouldn't be penalized for mothballing your locker room and transitioning to off-season mode.
Why?
Integrity of the game?

Because actions should have consequences? Acting like a petulant child shouldn't be rewarded.
Actually a bunch of schools turned down bowl bids. I don't understand why it should be a requirement.
It is kind of a requirement for SBC because we begged ESPN to create bowls for us.
Was there a contract? I don't mean to argue but it is my understanding a lot of schools lose money going to bowls. Now that we have to pay players it seems a good business decision to skip a bowl.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Wed Dec 10, 2025 11:34 am

Saint3333 wrote:
Wed Dec 10, 2025 8:07 am
I like this version of DL, that guy is great for the fan base.

I’m starting to see a trend how he interacts with external media types vs internal. Hopefully the latter changes.
There is a difference and I think it will change over time, but I also think Dowell is a straight shooter when it comes to relationships. If you take the time to get to know him and connect, he will connect back with you. It’s no secret that a few people have given him the cold shoulder, and that has become evident in certain interviews.

He has showed his positive personality a lot in the last month at Mountaineer Talk and the NSD podcast.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by Saint3333 » Wed Dec 10, 2025 11:46 am

That guy would have been good to see in September on Stadium Dr.

Maybe he just wasn't comfortable, I'm trying to figure out which one is the real DL?

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by T-Dog » Wed Dec 10, 2025 12:17 pm

Dowell says guys who declared for the portal can and will play in the Birmingham Bowl.

Also said Kohl is the QB1 and that he's earned it.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Wed Dec 10, 2025 12:49 pm

bcoach wrote:
Wed Dec 10, 2025 11:10 am
spacemonkey wrote:
Wed Dec 10, 2025 12:06 am
bcoach wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 9:11 pm
wb247 wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 6:56 pm
bcoach wrote:
Tue Dec 09, 2025 5:59 pm


Why?
Integrity of the game?

Because actions should have consequences? Acting like a petulant child shouldn't be rewarded.
Actually a bunch of schools turned down bowl bids. I don't understand why it should be a requirement.
It is kind of a requirement for SBC because we begged ESPN to create bowls for us.
Was there a contract? I don't mean to argue but it is my understanding a lot of schools lose money going to bowls. Now that we have to pay players it seems a good business decision to skip a bowl.
I was wondering if this took till 8:30 PM that night do some haggling to make sure we at least break even on expenses vs revenue.
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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by spacemonkey » Wed Dec 10, 2025 1:11 pm

I don't know about the contract, but I do think a lot of work was put in by the SBC and ESPN to make these bowl games happen.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Wed Dec 10, 2025 1:21 pm

Saint3333 wrote:
Wed Dec 10, 2025 11:46 am
That guy would have been good to see in September on Stadium Dr.

Maybe he just wasn't comfortable, I'm trying to figure out which one is the real DL?
My generic response without stepping on toes is would you have felt comfortable in his shoes in September? I think it’s understandable to say no but also expect growth in comfort level going forward, which he has shown in my opinion.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by Saint3333 » Wed Dec 10, 2025 1:33 pm

Being one's self is the best approach, it feels genuine that way and you'll likely find the place you're meant to be.

This interviews feels closer to who he is an a person versus the buttoned up coach speak robot persona.

Saying "nothing" with passion is an effective strategy I bet he adopts going forward.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by RaleighApp27609 » Wed Dec 10, 2025 2:25 pm

T-Dog wrote:
Wed Dec 10, 2025 12:17 pm
Dowell says guys who declared for the portal can and will play in the Birmingham Bowl.

Also said Kohl is the QB1 and that he's earned it.
I believe you but just curious if that is from an article or interview somewhere.

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Re: Birmingham Bowl

Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Wed Dec 10, 2025 2:29 pm

Press conference today at noon. Check the Facebook or YouTube account for a replay.

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