Roster/Staff Updates

[AppSt94]

DLo has been an OC long enough to show that his ceiling as an OC is average at best. I for one would like to see him relinquish that role so that we can determine his ceiling as a head coach.

[BambooRdApp]

Do not disagree with that statement. I do not believe he should be the OC. However, as of now, it does not appear that is happening.

[t4pizza]

My issue with the OC is that he isn't a good one, he wasn't in the NFL and not really in college either.

How does he compare to App’s last three OCs - Ponce, Barbay and Peterson in your opinion? I just want to have a clear understanding of how you would rank the 4 and why?

The crazy part is that Ponce numbers here in his last year, as much as we all were frustrated, were better than DLo's with a generational qb. at South Carolina. I am speaking in total offense that is, Sure DLo had better rushing numbers and scored more points, but Ponce had better passing numbers, total yards, yards per play and therefore better total offense. The rankings were App State with the #33 team in total offense and South Carolina with #45. The chasm was even greater in 2023 when Ponce produced the #26 ranked team in total offense while South Carolina was #77. This year we had the #91 ranked team in total offense, the worst since 2020 and the time that covers all 3 you asked about. In 2022 we had the #22 ranked total offense. In 2021 we had the #31 and in 2020 it was #23 so everyone of the 3 you mentioned were able to run offenses that produced more yardage than anything DLo has done. If you go by the stats of total offense, he is below all of them. Prior to DLo our worst was #33, the best he ever had as a college OC was #45 (with a generational QB). The numbers don't lie, he isn't a good OC.

Comparing sun belt stats to SEC stats is certainly a choice. Two different playing fields but okay.

Yes, the two conferences are a bit different, but he also had much better players at South Carolina including a generational QB that we have never had at App. Also, he called games in the Sun Belt last year (and a very weak Sun Belt at that) with about the easiest schedule that we have had in years and he still had the #91 ranked in total offenses. That is what he did in the Sun Belt, #91. None of those other guys produced anywhere near that poorly and they all had tougher schedules. You can believe whatever you want, but the numbers are the numbers and his are not good. You asked me to answer what I thought and why and I did, you don't have to accept the answer or agree with it.

[ASUFan4863]

DLo has been an OC long enough to show that his ceiling as an OC is average at best. I for one would like to see him relinquish that role so that we can determine his ceiling as a head coach.

We all know how you feel about his ceiling so why do you need to see it?

[AppSt94]

DLo has been an OC long enough to show that his ceiling as an OC is average at best. I for one would like to see him relinquish that role so that we can determine his ceiling as a head coach.

We all know how you feel about his ceiling so why do you need to see it?

He can absolutely prove me wrong. But I don’t think that he will until he relinquishes play calling duties.

[Saint3333]

Again if we caught a minimum of four more passes at certain times we aren't having this conversation.

I would like to see us run the ball more.

[AppSt94]

Again if we caught a minimum of four more passes at certain times we aren't having this conversation.

I would like to see us run the ball more.

And that last comment is where my issues come in. Loggains was asked after the Charlotte game about his thoughts on being the head coach of his first game. His response was something to the effect that for the first time in his career, he didn’t have someone in his headset telling him to run the ball.

[BambooRdApp]

Again if we caught a minimum of four more passes at certain times we aren't having this conversation.

I would like to see us run the ball more.

And that last comment is where my issues come in. Loggains was asked after the Charlotte game about his thoughts on being the head coach of his first game. His response was something to the effect that for the first time in his career, he didn’t have someone in his headset telling him to run the ball.

Well, he should have got 3 possessions in the 1st Q at So. Miss.
Yes, I am not over it

[ASUFan4863]

Again if we caught a minimum of four more passes at certain times we aren't having this conversation.

I would like to see us run the ball more.

And that last comment is where my issues come in. Loggains was asked after the Charlotte game about his thoughts on being the head coach of his first game. His response was something to the effect that for the first time in his career, he didn’t have someone in his headset telling him to run the ball.

App ran the ball on 45% of its offensive plays in 2025. There were 3 outliers directly related to the score and they were the first 3 games after losing Trent Ramsey - ODU (25%), Ga So (32%) and JMU (29%). I feel like when you look at the numbers and context, the gripe about not running the ball is overblown. It ultimately boils down to complaining about 3-5 plays a game that the casual fan feels should be a run.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

Again if we caught a minimum of four more passes at certain times we aren't having this conversation.

I would like to see us run the ball more.

And that last comment is where my issues come in. Loggains was asked after the Charlotte game about his thoughts on being the head coach of his first game. His response was something to the effect that for the first time in his career, he didn’t have someone in his headset telling him to run the ball.

App ran the ball on 45% of its offensive plays in 2025. There were 3 outliers directly related to the score and they were the first 3 games after losing Trent Ramsey - ODU (25%), Ga So (32%) and JMU (29%). I feel like when you look at the numbers and context, the gripe about not running the ball is overblown. It ultimately boils down to complaining about 3-5 plays a game that the casual fan feels should be a run.

I'm in the casual fan camp. But I believe when you lead the nation in dropped passes (don't know if still true) and you have two stud running backs against teams weak against the run (GaSo comes to mind), then you should be running it 65% of the time or more.

[ASUFan4863]

Again if we caught a minimum of four more passes at certain times we aren't having this conversation.

I would like to see us run the ball more.

And that last comment is where my issues come in. Loggains was asked after the Charlotte game about his thoughts on being the head coach of his first game. His response was something to the effect that for the first time in his career, he didn’t have someone in his headset telling him to run the ball.

App ran the ball on 45% of its offensive plays in 2025. There were 3 outliers directly related to the score and they were the first 3 games after losing Trent Ramsey - ODU (25%), Ga So (32%) and JMU (29%). I feel like when you look at the numbers and context, the gripe about not running the ball is overblown. It ultimately boils down to complaining about 3-5 plays a game that the casual fan feels should be a run.

I'm in the casual fan camp. But I believe when you lead the nation in dropped passes (don't know if still true) and you have two stud running backs against teams weak against the run (GaSo comes to mind), then you should be running it 65% of the time or more.

Roughly 50% (10 carries) of our runs against GaSo went for 1 yard or less with most of those coming in the first half.

[AppSt94]

Again if we caught a minimum of four more passes at certain times we aren't having this conversation.

I would like to see us run the ball more.

And that last comment is where my issues come in. Loggains was asked after the Charlotte game about his thoughts on being the head coach of his first game. His response was something to the effect that for the first time in his career, he didn’t have someone in his headset telling him to run the ball.

App ran the ball on 45% of its offensive plays in 2025. There were 3 outliers directly related to the score and they were the first 3 games after losing Trent Ramsey - ODU (25%), Ga So (32%) and JMU (29%). I feel like when you look at the numbers and context, the gripe about not running the ball is overblown. It ultimately boils down to complaining about 3-5 plays a game that the casual fan feels should be a run.

You are going to lose your shit over anything I say because you just want to disagree with everything I say. Last year you took umbrage that I was supportive despite the performance. This year I’m critical for an even worse performance that got progressively worse as the season went along and you still want to argue with me.

If you think my comment is about the statistics then you aren’t paying attention. He is determined to do it his way. That is his prerogative as the HC. I’ve said what I said. His resume doesn’t get him a room if I am interviewing. It was a bad hire and several folks on the mountain would probably tell you the same.

Bro, just agree to disagree. Go outside and touch some grass. Hug a loved one and hold a puppy.

[mike87]

I don't know if DLo is a good OC or a bad one. I also don't know if he will make a good HC or not. I do know, in game situations, he is not a good HC/OC. I can't believe that this has not been pointed out to him and strongly suggested that he do something about it. Outside of the in-game coaching he seems to do a decent job of HC with recruiting and bringing in position coaches, with the glaring exception of an OC.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

I think Justin Harper is a “good ole Catawba County boy” that played at Bandys.

As a Bear I am not sure I approve of this hire.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

Again if we caught a minimum of four more passes at certain times we aren't having this conversation.

I would like to see us run the ball more.

And that last comment is where my issues come in. Loggains was asked after the Charlotte game about his thoughts on being the head coach of his first game. His response was something to the effect that for the first time in his career, he didn’t have someone in his headset telling him to run the ball.

App ran the ball on 45% of its offensive plays in 2025. There were 3 outliers directly related to the score and they were the first 3 games after losing Trent Ramsey - ODU (25%), Ga So (32%) and JMU (29%). I feel like when you look at the numbers and context, the gripe about not running the ball is overblown. It ultimately boils down to complaining about 3-5 plays a game that the casual fan feels should be a run.

I'm in the casual fan camp. But I believe when you lead the nation in dropped passes (don't know if still true) and you have two stud running backs against teams weak against the run (GaSo comes to mind), then you should be running it 65% of the time or more.

Roughly 50% (10 carries) of our runs against GaSo went for 1 yard or less with most of those coming in the first half.

If you look at the play by play in the 2nd half, it tells a different story. Lots of long runs overshadowed by several drives ending with 3 straight incompletions or interceptions.

[bcoach]

I don't know if DLo is a good OC or a bad one. I also don't know if he will make a good HC or not. I do know, in game situations, he is not a good HC/OC. I can't believe that this has not been pointed out to him and strongly suggested that he do something about it. Outside of the in-game coaching he seems to do a decent job of HC with recruiting and bringing in position coaches, with the glaring exception of an OC.

I agree that this year it looks like he has done a good job recruiting. A good HC trait. I think he is an average OC. I also think it should not be a suggestion he hire an OC. I think it should be a requirement. That in not on him it is on the AD. I don't want him to end up being an average OC and average HC. I want him to be an excellent HC. I don't believe he will be if he trys to do both. We don't need part timers in those jobs. I also don't believe it is a money issue. We seem to have money for an endless amount of desk jockeys with every title under the sun.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

From Reddit: Is he not expecting to stay long?

Looking for a home to rent for App State’s new OC football coach!

Hi! Our family member was just hired as the offensive coordinator for the App State football team. We are very excited, but concerned about the lack of available homes for rent. We have looked at everything currently available, (which is very little) but most rentals are not even available until August. We are moving to Boone in a few weeks, so we need to find a home sooner than that. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING AVAILABLE? We are open to a VRBO situation, or maybe a listed home that has been sitting unsold that an owner would be willing to lease for a year? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, as we have looked at every rental/management website, Zillow, etc. Can’t wait to cheer on the Mountaineers!

[biggie]

From Reddit: Is he not expecting to stay long?

Looking for a home to rent for App State’s new OC football coach!

Hi! Our family member was just hired as the offensive coordinator for the App State football team. We are very excited, but concerned about the lack of available homes for rent. We have looked at everything currently available, (which is very little) but most rentals are not even available until August. We are moving to Boone in a few weeks, so we need to find a home sooner than that. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING AVAILABLE? We are open to a VRBO situation, or maybe a listed home that has been sitting unsold that an owner would be willing to lease for a year? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, as we have looked at every rental/management website, Zillow, etc. Can’t wait to cheer on the Mountaineers!

Someone trolling?

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

Seems like if true, there’d be staff working with them to help figure out housing and provide suggestions.

[BTK2000]

From Reddit: Is he not expecting to stay long?

Looking for a home to rent for App State’s new OC football coach!

Hi! Our family member was just hired as the offensive coordinator for the App State football team. We are very excited, but concerned about the lack of available homes for rent. We have looked at everything currently available, (which is very little) but most rentals are not even available until August. We are moving to Boone in a few weeks, so we need to find a home sooner than that. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING AVAILABLE? We are open to a VRBO situation, or maybe a listed home that has been sitting unsold that an owner would be willing to lease for a year? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, as we have looked at every rental/management website, Zillow, etc. Can’t wait to cheer on the Mountaineers!

It’s gone.

I saw that too and came over here to see if there was a rumor. When I saw this and realized the Reddit post was the only tidbit of this even happening and was now on the cabin, i knew it wouldn’t last long. If true, I’d feel confident speculating Someone keeps an eye on this forum in the building and made a call. Either way it could be a sophisticated troll that dropped an innocent kernel in an obscure location to rile up 20 people or someone’s niece just got a txt. Either way idk what they gain by waiting or just releasing a 2 second press release with more info to follow.