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Re: UNC CH athletes who can't read

Unread post by fjblair » Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:43 pm

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That's no excuse in the least.

Why does he need an excuse?

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Re: UNC CH athletes who can't read

Unread post by JCline0429 » Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:50 pm

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That's no excuse in the least.

Why does he need an excuse?
Obviously he doesn't but I would except a kid who went through a distinguished academic program as that of Stanford to have bit of class no matter what had transpired in the game or the media the week prior. I would be mortified if that had been one of our former players being interviewed by a lady reporter no less. If had been the reporter, I would have switched of the mike half way through the diatribe and for anyone else who did the same kind of thing.. If I want to se this kind of charade, I would watch pro wrestling.
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Re: UNC CH athletes who can't read

Unread post by fjblair » Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:55 pm

JCline0429 wrote:
fjblair wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:


That's no excuse in the least.

Why does he need an excuse?
Obviously he doesn't but I would except a kid who went through a distinguished academic program as that of Stanford to have bit of class no matter what had transpired in the game or the media the week prior. I would be mortified if that had been one of our former players being interviewed by a lady reporter no less. If had been the reporter, I would have switched of the mike half way through the diatribe and for anyone else who did the same kind of thing.. If I want to se this kind of charade, I would watch pro wrestling.
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Re: UNC CH athletes who can't read

Unread post by Gonzo » Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:02 pm

AppGrad1 wrote: Lol... I won the bet. :lol: :lol:
I would wager that you really would be more comfortable on a UNC message board. And I'd go double or nothing on the assertion that App Nation would look better in your absence.

It's a win-win.

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Re: UNC CH athletes who can't read

Unread post by AppGrad1 » Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:47 pm

Gonzo wrote:
AppGrad1 wrote: Lol... I won the bet. :lol: :lol:
I would wager that you really would be more comfortable on a UNC message board. And I'd go double or nothing on the assertion that App Nation would look better in your absence.

It's a win-win.

I just won another bet! Lol Lol
You are so predictable...

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Re: UNC CH athletes who can't read

Unread post by WVAPPeer » Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:50 pm

JCline0429 wrote:
fjblair wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:


That's no excuse in the least.

Why does he need an excuse?
Obviously he doesn't but I would except a kid who went through a distinguished academic program as that of Stanford to have bit of class no matter what had transpired in the game or the media the week prior. I would be mortified if that had been one of our former players being interviewed by a lady reporter no less. If had been the reporter, I would have switched of the mike half way through the diatribe and for anyone else who did the same kind of thing.. If I want to se this kind of charade, I would watch pro wrestling.
Come on Cline - you are a friend - but I have to say you are overplaying this - if you have heard him speak since that moment then you would have no question about the quality of his education - he didn't curse - if he had then I think it would be more of a problem --- Remember when Ol Roy said, "I could give a shit about North Carolina" to a female reporter??? - I don't consider Roy a thug ---
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Re: UNC CH athletes who can't read

Unread post by Gonzo » Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:55 pm

AppGrad1 wrote:You are so predictable...
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Re: UNC CH athletes who can't read

Unread post by JCline0429 » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:12 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
fjblair wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:


That's no excuse in the least.

Why does he need an excuse?
Obviously he doesn't but I would except a kid who went through a distinguished academic program as that of Stanford to have bit of class no matter what had transpired in the game or the media the week prior. I would be mortified if that had been one of our former players being interviewed by a lady reporter no less. If had been the reporter, I would have switched of the mike half way through the diatribe and for anyone else who did the same kind of thing.. If I want to se this kind of charade, I would watch pro wrestling.
Come on Cline - you are a friend - but I have to say you are overplaying this - if you have heard him speak since that moment then you would have no question about the quality of his education - he didn't curse - if he had then I think it would be more of a problem --- Remember when Ol Roy said, "I could give a shit about North Carolina" to a female reporter??? - I don't consider Roy a thug ---
WVApp, I just don't like all the drama especially when it is negative even when it seems provoked. Either I'm a traditionalist or a prude but I'm from the old school that taught players to hand the ball off to a ref after a score and praise the opponent after the game, win or not.

I wasn't questioning his intelligence, just his judgement. Judge Joe Brown is one of my favorite personalities and I can just hear his reaction to the antics if he saw it. Hutzpah is one thing but this kind of thing just doesn't belong in sports at any level. My 8 year old was shocked that grown men would act this way. I'm glad he was.

BTW, I hope you and your family are doing ell and I always enjoy your comments.
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Re: UNC CH athletes who can't read

Unread post by AppGrad1 » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:14 pm

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Awesome! Lol great find.

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Re: UNC CH athletes who can't read

Unread post by WVAPPeer » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:56 pm

JCline0429 wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
fjblair wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:


That's no excuse in the least.

Why does he need an excuse?
Obviously he doesn't but I would except a kid who went through a distinguished academic program as that of Stanford to have bit of class no matter what had transpired in the game or the media the week prior. I would be mortified if that had been one of our former players being interviewed by a lady reporter no less. If had been the reporter, I would have switched of the mike half way through the diatribe and for anyone else who did the same kind of thing.. If I want to se this kind of charade, I would watch pro wrestling.
Come on Cline - you are a friend - but I have to say you are overplaying this - if you have heard him speak since that moment then you would have no question about the quality of his education - he didn't curse - if he had then I think it would be more of a problem --- Remember when Ol Roy said, "I could give a shit about North Carolina" to a female reporter??? - I don't consider Roy a thug ---
WVApp, I just don't like all the drama especially when it is negative even when it seems provoked. Either I'm a traditionalist or a prude but I'm from the old school that taught players to hand the ball off to a ref after a score and praise the opponent after the game, win or not.

I wasn't questioning his intelligence, just his judgement. Judge Joe Brown is one of my favorite personalities and I can just hear his reaction to the antics if he saw it. Hutzpah is one thing but this kind of thing just doesn't belong in sports at any level. My 8 year old was shocked that grown men would act this way. I'm glad he was.

BTW, I hope you and your family are doing ell and I always enjoy your comments.
Thanks Cline --- I agree with your take on "old school" - but like I said earlier - even though I don't like it, "it's like saying I don't like cellphones" - it's just a different time and it's not back ---
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Re: UNC CH athletes who can't read

Unread post by JCline0429 » Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:16 pm

I agree, but I just lose enthusiasm for the whole sordid mess. Children just no longer have the positive role models in sports we once had. I know, I know, some will say they aren't supposed to be role models. Supposed to or not...they are and they relish in it.
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Re: UNC CH athletes who can't read

Unread post by hapapp » Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:29 pm

Richard Sherman actually can be a role model based on his story. He grew up in Compton, Cal. and had 4+ GPA and went to Stanford. He really hadn't been outside of Compton but because of his determination to make it despite the odds, he really does have an incredible story. Unfortunately, people want to judge him by 10 seconds after a ball game. I understand why...I wasn't impressed either by his tirade. But, once you put it to the context of the game and his life, I see him much differently.

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Re: UNC CH athletes who can't read

Unread post by Maddog1956 » Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:29 pm

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Gonzo wrote:He didn't use foul language. His tone was intense to say the least and he was boastful, saying he was the best corner in the league (he's probably right), but that's about it. I don't think one emotionally charged interview can characterize him as a "thug."
He is a thug the same way as Joe Namath was a thug for predicting the outcome of the Super Bowl with the “I guarantee you” remark or the other trash talk that went on that week. He's a thug in the same way that John McEnroe was everytime he stepped on the court or when Tony Stewart (or any other driver) calls someone and A**hole or gets in a fight.

Now we don't call them thug's because they don't have certain "thug" qualities (feel free to take a guess what the main one would be). Like he said, thug is only used to describe a certain group of people any more.

Not race baiting are you?
I never said anything about race! That fact that "race" came to mind instead of "athletic ability", being a male or highly competitive etc, etc proves we all know what it's code for.
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Re: UNC CH athletes who can't read

Unread post by Maddog1956 » Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:48 pm

To paraphrase Britt Hume, Sherman's Too Much Of A Man For Our 'Feminized' Culture. Christie (or his people) close off a highway (that may have caused a woman to die) to get even with someone and we call Sherman a thug. I think our priorities are wrong what we should be upset about. :lol:
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Re: UNC CH athletes who can't read

Unread post by appst89 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:07 am

Maddog1956 wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
Maddog1956 wrote:
Gonzo wrote:He didn't use foul language. His tone was intense to say the least and he was boastful, saying he was the best corner in the league (he's probably right), but that's about it. I don't think one emotionally charged interview can characterize him as a "thug."
He is a thug the same way as Joe Namath was a thug for predicting the outcome of the Super Bowl with the “I guarantee you” remark or the other trash talk that went on that week. He's a thug in the same way that John McEnroe was everytime he stepped on the court or when Tony Stewart (or any other driver) calls someone and A**hole or gets in a fight.

Now we don't call them thug's because they don't have certain "thug" qualities (feel free to take a guess what the main one would be). Like he said, thug is only used to describe a certain group of people any more.

Not race baiting are you?
I never said anything about race! That fact that "race" came to mind instead of "athletic ability", being a male or highly competitive etc, etc proves we all know what it's code for.
I'm sorry, but that's a load of bull. I work in an environment where I see thugs every day and race has nothing to do with it. They are black, white, Hispanic, Caribbean, Eurpoean and every other possible hyphenated designation anyone can create. Enough words have already been stolen by the PC police. Sherman pulled that ridiculous claim to try to divert attention from his juvenile behavior. It's sad to me that so many people are buying it. And if I had to label it, I'd say Sherman is a punk, just like McEnroe and Stewart and Kyle Busch and a host of other spoiled athletes.

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Re: UNC CH athletes who can't read

Unread post by Maddog1956 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:34 am

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Not race baiting are you?
I never said anything about race! That fact that "race" came to mind instead of "athletic ability", being a male or highly competitive etc, etc proves we all know what it's code for.
I'm sorry, but that's a load of bull. I work in an environment where I see thugs every day and race has nothing to do with it. They are black, white, Hispanic, Caribbean, Eurpoean and every other possible hyphenated designation anyone can create. Enough words have already been stolen by the PC police. Sherman pulled that ridiculous claim to try to divert attention from his juvenile behavior. It's sad to me that so many people are buying it. And if I had to label it, I'd say Sherman is a punk, just like McEnroe and Stewart and Kyle Busch and a host of other spoiled athletes.
I don't know what work you do but unless they are violent criminals they're not "thug" according to the proper definition, if you do work with violent criminals you should know better than to apply "thug" to someone that isn't (Sherman doesn't have a criminal record, so clearly not a "thug"). Actually the PC police are try to keep the word reserved for it proper use instead of being a replacement "N-word".

We're not debating if he's a "punk" which could apply (but wasn't used).

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Re: UNC CH athletes who can't read

Unread post by appst89 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:12 am

Maddog1956 wrote:
appst89 wrote:
Maddog1956 wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
Not race baiting are you?
I never said anything about race! That fact that "race" came to mind instead of "athletic ability", being a male or highly competitive etc, etc proves we all know what it's code for.
I'm sorry, but that's a load of bull. I work in an environment where I see thugs every day and race has nothing to do with it. They are black, white, Hispanic, Caribbean, Eurpoean and every other possible hyphenated designation anyone can create. Enough words have already been stolen by the PC police. Sherman pulled that ridiculous claim to try to divert attention from his juvenile behavior. It's sad to me that so many people are buying it. And if I had to label it, I'd say Sherman is a punk, just like McEnroe and Stewart and Kyle Busch and a host of other spoiled athletes.
I don't know what work you do but unless they are violent criminals they're not "thug" according to the proper definition, if you do work with violent criminals you should know better than to apply "thug" to someone that isn't (Sherman doesn't have a criminal record, so clearly not a "thug"). Actually the PC police are try to keep the word reserved for it proper use instead of being a replacement "N-word".

We're not debating if he's a "punk" which could apply (but wasn't used).

http://espn991.com/do-white-athletes-ge ... ke-a-thug/
I work in a maximum security prison. I know what a thug is. I never called Sherman a thug so you need to run that accusation back. I called him a punk, which I believe is very fitting. His demeanor and his attitude in that interview was thug-like; and I can safely say that because I see it every day; but that doesn't make him a thug. The world is full of wannabe thugs. As for it being a replacement N-word, I'm not buying it. Sherman tossed that little gem to try to inject race and divert attention from his behavior.

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Re: UNC CH athletes who can't read

Unread post by Gonzo » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:30 am

One emotionally charged interview does not a "punk" or "thug" make. He was interviewed just seconds after the biggest play of his career and a matchup that was an incredibly chippy. This a smart guy, an intense competitor, but a smart guy. Never cursed, never said anything particularly offensive. The only reason it was such big news is because it was so hilarious to watch.

All the ignorant hate he's received for the passed two weeks has made him one of my favorite players.

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Re: UNC CH athletes who can't read

Unread post by Appsolutley » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:34 am

I'm concerned. I'm remembering some of the things I said after we lost to Charleston Southern, and I'm thinking I might be a thug.

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