Charlotte Observer: Lutz is Leading Candidate

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Re: Charlotte Observer: Lutz is Leading Candidate

Unread post by IGgreer » Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:08 am

ASUPATCH wrote:
IGgreer wrote:Cobb better not screw this up

Better not screw this up? Didn't you say just last week that Lutz would be another lazy hire? Can't hate on Cobb both ways. Lay off Cobb for 5 minutes...holy cow.
Lutz was my first choice from day 1. Maybe you should read more carefully, "Patch"

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Re: Charlotte Observer: Lutz is Leading Candidate

Unread post by ASUPATCH » Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:24 am

My fault....it was Eggers who posted that. Name of a different building on campus. To be fair I thought Sampson was you guy?
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Unread post by IGgreer » Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:27 am

I've been throwing Sampson's name out there out of pure sarcasm and bitterness towards Cobb's tendencies to be lazy.

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Re: Charlotte Observer: Lutz is Leading Candidate

Unread post by Watauga72 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:35 am

IGgreer wrote:I've been throwing Sampson's name out there out of pure sarcasm and bitterness towards Cobb's tendencies to be lazy.
Doubt Sampson would consider ASU, and given his track record of breaking the rules at OU, moving to Indiana and then doing the same thing, would not want him. If he is willing to knowingly break rules just to compete at a program like IU, God knows what he'd do at ASU.

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Re: Charlotte Observer: Lutz is Leading Candidate

Unread post by IGgreer » Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:36 am

Watauga72 wrote:
IGgreer wrote:I've been throwing Sampson's name out there out of pure sarcasm and bitterness towards Cobb's tendencies to be lazy.
Doubt Sampson would consider ASU, and given his track record of breaking the rules at OU, moving to Indiana and then doing the same thing, would not want him. If he is willing to knowingly break rules just to compete at a program like IU, God knows what he'd do at ASU.
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Re: Charlotte Observer: Lutz is Leading Candidate

Unread post by asu66 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:44 am

Kelvin's going to the Houston Cougars. Lutz should consider Kellen for the fourth (limited earnings) assistant.
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Re: Charlotte Observer: Lutz is Leading Candidate

Unread post by IGgreer » Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:50 am

Lutz would retain Kummer thought, right?

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Unread post by AppHoops » Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:53 am

Watauga72 wrote:
IGgreer wrote:I've been throwing Sampson's name out there out of pure sarcasm and bitterness towards Cobb's tendencies to be lazy.
Doubt Sampson would consider ASU, and given his track record of breaking the rules at OU, moving to Indiana and then doing the same thing, would not want him. If he is willing to knowingly break rules just to compete at a program like IU, God knows what he'd do at ASU.

Kelvin Sampson is rumored for Houston's job. I bet Kellen joins his staff if that goes through.

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Re: Charlotte Observer: Lutz is Leading Candidate

Unread post by asu66 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:57 am

IGgreer wrote:Lutz would retain Kummer thought, right?
I hope not.
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Re: Charlotte Observer: Lutz is Leading Candidate

Unread post by appgrouch » Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:57 am

IGgreer wrote:Lutz would retain Kummer thought, right?
If he did, he would need to be fired for gross incompetence. Kummer was at the heart of alot of the problems during the Capel era.
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Re: Charlotte Observer: Lutz is Leading Candidate

Unread post by IGgreer » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:05 am

appgrouch wrote:
IGgreer wrote:Lutz would retain Kummer thought, right?
If he did, he would need to be fired for gross incompetence. Kummer was at the heart of alot of the problems during the Capel era.
Know any details?

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Re: Charlotte Observer: Lutz is Leading Candidate

Unread post by kiddbrewer » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:07 am

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moehler wrote:well, with the Louisville assistant taking the UNCW job, Its starting to look like its going to be Lutz, not the worst choice, but don't think he is going to make us an NCAA tournament team, hope I'm wrong.
Baby steps. Let's keep our players out of jail, get their GPA's above the cut off, and beat every D-2/MEAC team we play. Then we can talk about post seasons.

My good buddy (State grad) is convinced this a home run hire for us. It might be an 'easy' hire or one that won't likely get us to the big dance in just a few years, but considering how Capel destroyed our once respectable program, I'll be thrilled if we land a coach with a resume like Lutz's.
Couldn't have said it better myself!

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Re: Charlotte Observer: Lutz is Leading Candidate

Unread post by appgrouch » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:13 am

IGgreer wrote:
appgrouch wrote:
IGgreer wrote:Lutz would retain Kummer thought, right?
If he did, he would need to be fired for gross incompetence. Kummer was at the heart of alot of the problems during the Capel era.
Know any details?
I know details but can't say a lot. What I can say is from personally seeing the way he interacted with players in public, he is one to cuss and ride players to the point that might respond in kind.

I believe that some of the "team rules" issues were involving him.
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Re: Charlotte Observer: Lutz is Leading Candidate

Unread post by moehler » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:20 am

wow, I guess it shows how far the program has sunk, when our immediate goals are to beat division 2 teams, get players out of jail, and try to not flunk out. No wonder Lutz is probably going to be our coach, no up and coming assistant at a big time program who takes one look at the program is going to come anywhere near Boone.

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Re: Charlotte Observer: Lutz is Leading Candidate

Unread post by Watauga72 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:27 am

IGgreer wrote:
Watauga72 wrote:
IGgreer wrote:I've been throwing Sampson's name out there out of pure sarcasm and bitterness towards Cobb's tendencies to be lazy.
Doubt Sampson would consider ASU, and given his track record of breaking the rules at OU, moving to Indiana and then doing the same thing, would not want him. If he is willing to knowingly break rules just to compete at a program like IU, God knows what he'd do at ASU.
Kellen, not Kelvin.

Opps...sorry. Misunderstood.

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Re: Charlotte Observer: Lutz is Leading Candidate

Unread post by SpeedkingATL » Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:23 pm

At least Lutz has successful head coaching experience and knows NC well. He doesn't excite me but he has the right tools to take over this "disaster" of a program and has proven he can win games at the SunBelt level AND make an occasional appearance in the Big Dance. That would be a huge improvement over the last few years.

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Re: Charlotte Observer: Lutz is Leading Candidate

Unread post by roachgone » Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:56 pm

Don't know who we will end up with but there is NO doubt the new coach will be 100 times better that what we've had. We just have to keep in mind the kind of salary we can offer ain't gonna attract a big name . We're looking at re tread head coaches, asst coaches or coaches from D2 or D 3. The guy Wake forest just fired was making like $1.5 million a yr. so what do yall think we're gonna get for $250,000 to $300,000. Pretty sad when you can't find a good coach of any kind for money that puts that person in the top 1% of wage earners in the US. Our entire sports economy has gotten way beyond the realm of reality.

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Re: Charlotte Observer: Lutz is Leading Candidate

Unread post by SpeedkingATL » Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:09 pm

roachgone wrote:Don't know who we will end up with but there is NO doubt the new coach will be 100 times better that what we've had. We just have to keep in mind the kind of salary we can offer ain't gonna attract a big name . We're looking at re tread head coaches, asst coaches or coaches from D2 or D 3. The guy Wake forest just fired was making like $1.5 million a yr. so what do yall think we're gonna get for $250,000 to $300,000. Pretty sad when you can't find a good coach of any kind for money that puts that person in the top 1% of wage earners in the US. Our entire sports economy has gotten way beyond the realm of reality.
Your last statement is dead on!

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Re: Charlotte Observer: Lutz is Leading Candidate

Unread post by JTApps1 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:13 pm

asu66 wrote:
IGgreer wrote:Lutz would retain Kummer thought, right?
I hope not.
Ditto.

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Re: Charlotte Observer: Lutz is Leading Candidate

Unread post by ASUfan6971 » Fri Mar 28, 2014 1:33 pm

Isn't Capel on contract through March? If so, then expect a hire next week.

Bobby Lutz is a winner! He is a master at strategy and is known for taking an average team and developing them into a top contender. He started as a JV coach in high school and worked his way up to head coach. Everywhere he goes, the teams seem to win. He is a very fierce competitor and a good recruiter, but his greatest asset is his good character and family background from rural Catawba County. He knows how to work hard. I would want him on my side, rather than coaching against him. LOOK OUT SUNBELT! I am hoping Cobb can work out a deal soon.

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