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Unread post by asu66 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:53 pm

Nugget49 wrote:It is one transfer and he was not dismissed from UGA. Let's face it what he did was probably two parts stupid and one part illegal. Maybe a good accounting class will help him see why this was never going to work. So here is where it stands: Lemay agreed to pre-trial intervention and if he completes the terms of the agreement the charges will be dropped. What is important now is how he handles life moving forward. And that Charlotte's image remains unblemished of course. :lol:

I'd say one part stupid and four parts illegal. Lemay dodged getting dismissed from the UGA team by quickly requesting a transfer. That was pretty savvy of him. And according to the AJC, his case was the most damaging because he took his check and a stolen check (from his roommate) and "cashed" each twice. They had him on four counts. The AJC account of him leaving the courtroom "all smiles" would be cause for concern if I were the Charlotte coach. The kid knows he dodged a bullet and got off with a light wrist-slap. That could lead to future misdeeds. As you said in your post, the important thing now is "how he handles life moving forward."

LeMay leaves Athens with a legal matter pending. He was one of the four players charged with theft by deception in a scheme in which they were accused of double-cashing subsidy checks from the athletic association. LeMay’s situation was considered somewhat more egregious because he was alleged to taken a roommate’s already-deposited checks and cashing them.

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Unread post by asutrnr81 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:34 pm

Why are even talking about an FCS team as if they mean anything to us at this point. We are out of there in 19 days!

I wish all the kids we are talking about very much good luck. Why would we wish them anything else? They are kids, they are going to make mistakes as are we and I hope we do not make many!

I hope Anthony Covington has a great college career and if we ever play against him I hope we use him like a kleenex. I hope he graduates college, finds a great spouse and has a fantastic family and life! Good gracious let him be!
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Unread post by asutrnr81 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:36 pm

Man I hope Small comes back and has a great season!
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Unread post by Nugget49 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:57 pm

I came over here because I had a little news about Anthony Covington and now look where we are. I have no problem with Appies digging at our recuits, we are fair game and it is your board. I am not going to come over here and battle you because I am basically a guest and want to behave like one. This is the off-season and there isn't much to do so have at it.

I do not disagree with you that Lemay did something really dumb and represents a risk for us. I have to trust the coach on this. Coach Lambert has a pretty good track record so far in dealing with issues the way I want him to, he seems to be well thought of in his profession, and even Jerry Moore is a fan so that is good enough for me at this point. We will have to see how Lemay handles this. Like every kid, I am pulling for him.

On the football side he is an off the chart recuit for a team at our stage of the game. You should get a chance to see him on the field in 2018 and then really have a chance to hate him.

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Unread post by NewApp » Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:23 pm

asu66 wrote:
Nugget49 wrote:It is one transfer and he was not dismissed from UGA. Let's face it what he did was probably two parts stupid and one part illegal. Maybe a good accounting class will help him see why this was never going to work. So here is where it stands: Lemay agreed to pre-trial intervention and if he completes the terms of the agreement the charges will be dropped. What is important now is how he handles life moving forward. And that Charlotte's image remains unblemished of course. :lol:

I'd say one part stupid and four parts illegal. Lemay dodged getting dismissed from the UGA team by quickly requesting a transfer. That was pretty savvy of him. And according to the AJC, his case was the most damaging because he took his check and a stolen check (from his roommate) and "cashed" each twice. They had him on four counts. The AJC account of him leaving the courtroom "all smiles" would be cause for concern if I were the Charlotte coach. The kid knows he dodged a bullet and got off with a light wrist-slap. That could lead to future misdeeds. As you said in your post, the important thing now is "how he handles life moving forward."

LeMay leaves Athens with a legal matter pending. He was one of the four players charged with theft by deception in a scheme in which they were accused of double-cashing subsidy checks from the athletic association. LeMay’s situation was considered somewhat more egregious because he was alleged to taken a roommate’s already-deposited checks and cashing them.

http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/college/ ... urt/ngFPB/

Sounds eerily like Marshall University a few years back.
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asu66 wrote:
Nugget49 wrote:It is one transfer and he was not dismissed from UGA. Let's face it what he did was probably two parts stupid and one part illegal. Maybe a good accounting class will help him see why this was never going to work. So here is where it stands: Lemay agreed to pre-trial intervention and if he completes the terms of the agreement the charges will be dropped. What is important now is how he handles life moving forward. And that Charlotte's image remains unblemished of course. :lol:

I'd say one part stupid and four parts illegal. Lemay dodged getting dismissed from the UGA team by quickly requesting a transfer. That was pretty savvy of him. And according to the AJC, his case was the most damaging because he took his check and a stolen check (from his roommate) and "cashed" each twice. They had him on four counts. The AJC account of him leaving the courtroom "all smiles" would be cause for concern if I were the Charlotte coach. The kid knows he dodged a bullet and got off with a light wrist-slap. That could lead to future misdeeds. As you said in your post, the important thing now is "how he handles life moving forward."

LeMay leaves Athens with a legal matter pending. He was one of the four players charged with theft by deception in a scheme in which they were accused of double-cashing subsidy checks from the athletic association. LeMay’s situation was considered somewhat more egregious because he was alleged to taken a roommate’s already-deposited checks and cashing them.

http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/college/ ... urt/ngFPB/
Just curious. Why are there such things as subsidy checks? If I was in charge, perish the thought, there would be no subsidy checks. Student athletes would live in dorms, eat cafeteria food like the regular students, and have their travel paid to games (as it already is) and eat meals paid for by the athletic department while traveling. There would be precious few who couldn't afford decent clothing and pay for their own beer.
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Unread post by bcoach » Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:33 pm

How do you cash a check that has been deposited. These guys must be way to smart to go to Carolina :lol:

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Unread post by NewApp » Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:37 pm

bcoach wrote:How do you cash a check that has been deposited. These guys must be way to smart to go to Carolina :lol:
That, too.
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Nugget49 wrote: and even Jerry Moore is a fan so that is good enough for me at this point.
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Jerry Moore is also a fan of Urban Meyer, who is a huge scumbag of a coach

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Unread post by moehler » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:33 am

49, I don't think its a bad move taking a chance on a few troubled kids, as well as, a overall large number of transfers, because at this stage of your program, you really don't have anything to lose, you have no tradition, and your trying to get the program to respectability asap. Also, from what I have heard, last year you guys had mixed results, especially with the students in terms of interest and attendance, not being critical, if App was in the same position, we probably would have had the same results, and probably would also take some chances on some troubled players. My point is, you guys because your joining USA next year, and with the pressure the conference is putting on you guys to get up to speed quickly, (Im sure the commissioner has had talks with Judy about the tv contract expiring in 2 years), you cant afford to gradually gain respectability in the next 5-7 years, its got to happen within the next couple of years....I don't think its possible, but transfers are the most obvious way to get there quickly, just remember if you continue to depend on transfers, and they don't come thru for you in a big way, its going set your program back even further.

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Unread post by bcoach » Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:46 am

mtnjax wrote:
Nugget49 wrote: and even Jerry Moore is a fan so that is good enough for me at this point.
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Jerry Moore is also a fan of Urban Meyer, who is a huge scumbag of a coach
I don't think coach Moore needs either of you guys speaking for him.

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moehler wrote:49, I don't think its a bad move taking a chance on a few troubled kids, as well as, a overall large number of transfers, because at this stage of your program, you really don't have anything to lose, you have no tradition, and your trying to get the program to respectability asap. Also, from what I have heard, last year you guys had mixed results, especially with the students in terms of interest and attendance, not being critical, if App was in the same position, we probably would have had the same results, and probably would also take some chances on some troubled players. My point is, you guys because your joining USA next year, and with the pressure the conference is putting on you guys to get up to speed quickly, (Im sure the commissioner has had talks with Judy about the tv contract expiring in 2 years), you cant afford to gradually gain respectability in the next 5-7 years, its got to happen within the next couple of years....I don't think its possible, but transfers are the most obvious way to get there quickly, just remember if you continue to depend on transfers, and they don't come thru for you in a big way, its going set your program back even further.
The only game where we really had issues with student attendance was the game over fall break.

We had an issue with students leaving their seats at halftime and never going back to them, but most of them just stood on the concourse and watched the game because you have a much better view standing on the concourse than you do from the corner. Our stadium is small, so if you're standing between the 30's on the concourse, you have a damn good view of the field. My season tickets were in the corner and I would go stand up on the concourse and watch sometimes too. The students that had seats on the sidelines mostly stayed in place the whole game.

Just out of curiosity, how large is App's student seating section? Our students get 7,500 tickets, which I think is just unreasonable. We had a few thousand (I'm thinking it was nearly 4,000) people that were on a wait list for season tickets last year. That's a lot of lost revenue just so students get half the damn stadium.

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Niner National wrote:
moehler wrote:49, I don't think its a bad move taking a chance on a few troubled kids, as well as, a overall large number of transfers, because at this stage of your program, you really don't have anything to lose, you have no tradition, and your trying to get the program to respectability asap. Also, from what I have heard, last year you guys had mixed results, especially with the students in terms of interest and attendance, not being critical, if App was in the same position, we probably would have had the same results, and probably would also take some chances on some troubled players. My point is, you guys because your joining USA next year, and with the pressure the conference is putting on you guys to get up to speed quickly, (Im sure the commissioner has had talks with Judy about the tv contract expiring in 2 years), you cant afford to gradually gain respectability in the next 5-7 years, its got to happen within the next couple of years....I don't think its possible, but transfers are the most obvious way to get there quickly, just remember if you continue to depend on transfers, and they don't come thru for you in a big way, its going set your program back even further.
The only game where we really had issues with student attendance was the game over fall break.

We had an issue with students leaving their seats at halftime and never going back to them, but most of them just stood on the concourse and watched the game because you have a much better view standing on the concourse than you do from the corner. Our stadium is small, so if you're standing between the 30's on the concourse, you have a damn good view of the field. My season tickets were in the corner and I would go stand up on the concourse and watch sometimes too. The students that had seats on the sidelines mostly stayed in place the whole game.

Just out of curiosity, how large is App's student seating section? Our students get 7,500 tickets, which I think is just unreasonable. We had a few thousand (I'm thinking it was nearly 4,000) people that were on a wait list for season tickets last year. That's a lot of lost revenue just so students get half the damn stadium.
Umm. There would be no university and thus no football program nor stadium without students.
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Unread post by moehler » Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:56 am

7500 assigned seats for students? Wow, that aggressive, I know they are trying to get the students to attend, but I agree, that's too many, you guys are leaving money on the table. To put it in perspective, Michigan, with their seating capacity of 105,000 plus, has only assigned 12,000 plus for their students this year. I don't know what Apps is, but I cant imagine its more than 7000.

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Niner National wrote:
moehler wrote:49, I don't think its a bad move taking a chance on a few troubled kids, as well as, a overall large number of transfers, because at this stage of your program, you really don't have anything to lose, you have no tradition, and your trying to get the program to respectability asap. Also, from what I have heard, last year you guys had mixed results, especially with the students in terms of interest and attendance, not being critical, if App was in the same position, we probably would have had the same results, and probably would also take some chances on some troubled players. My point is, you guys because your joining USA next year, and with the pressure the conference is putting on you guys to get up to speed quickly, (Im sure the commissioner has had talks with Judy about the tv contract expiring in 2 years), you cant afford to gradually gain respectability in the next 5-7 years, its got to happen within the next couple of years....I don't think its possible, but transfers are the most obvious way to get there quickly, just remember if you continue to depend on transfers, and they don't come thru for you in a big way, its going set your program back even further.
The only game where we really had issues with student attendance was the game over fall break.

We had an issue with students leaving their seats at halftime and never going back to them, but most of them just stood on the concourse and watched the game because you have a much better view standing on the concourse than you do from the corner. Our stadium is small, so if you're standing between the 30's on the concourse, you have a damn good view of the field. My season tickets were in the corner and I would go stand up on the concourse and watch sometimes too. The students that had seats on the sidelines mostly stayed in place the whole game.

Just out of curiosity, how large is App's student seating section? Our students get 7,500 tickets, which I think is just unreasonable. We had a few thousand (I'm thinking it was nearly 4,000) people that were on a wait list for season tickets last year. That's a lot of lost revenue just so students get half the damn stadium.
It's a shame students pay athletic fees then can't attend football games.
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Unread post by bcoach » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:07 am

moehler wrote:7500 assigned seats for students? Wow, that aggressive, I know they are trying to get the students to attend, but I agree, that's too many, you guys are leaving money on the table. To put it in perspective, Michigan, with their seating capacity of 105,000 plus, has only assigned 12,000 plus for their students this year. I don't know what Apps is, but I cant imagine its more than 7000.
There is NEVER too many student seats. Every one of them pays for a seat. There should be seats equal to the student population reserved for them in every stadium in America. If we have one of the highest percentages them I am very proud of us.

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bcoach wrote:
moehler wrote:7500 assigned seats for students? Wow, that aggressive, I know they are trying to get the students to attend, but I agree, that's too many, you guys are leaving money on the table. To put it in perspective, Michigan, with their seating capacity of 105,000 plus, has only assigned 12,000 plus for their students this year. I don't know what Apps is, but I cant imagine its more than 7000.
There is NEVER too many student seats. Every one of them pays for a seat. There should be seats equal to the student population reserved for them in every stadium in America. If we have one of the highest percentages them I am very proud of us.
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Unread post by moehler » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:43 am

I think we have had this discussion before, Is it better for a program, to have students pay, I would say, at a discount, but to have only half show up, and to have many leave at halftime, and to have many at the game, socializing, and not really paying attention to the game, or do you cut their numbers, sell more seats to alumni who will pay full ticket price, and who make yearly contributions? Im not taking sides either way, and I guess each University ticket situation is unique, some schools have a large student population that attends games, others have seen a drop off in attendance and believe they must make a tough business decision. Again, Michigan did this, last year, the assigned 19,000 plus for students, this year 12,000.

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