Gameday!!!

[2TimeNeer]

Another embarrassing prime time loss. Another flat effort to start the game. Allowed 3rd down conversion after 3rd down conversion. Minimal push from the O line. Pathetic attempts at mid game adjustments. Two terrible turnovers at the worst time. Losing by 7? Felt and looked like we got beat by 40.

[311neers]

I don’t post on here much anymore, but Clark does look in over his head. Just stands on the sideline no speaking to anyone; F2F or on his headset

2-3 years ago he just looked confused after horrible clock management and putrid decisions time after time. Now it’s just like deer in the headlights lol. Didn’t like it then, definitely don’t like it now. Try to go 7-5 and reassess in offseason. Props to the kids for gutting that one out. Chase brice is a dawg. Pretty bad he’s one of our best qbs ever and we’re in the situation we’re in.

[App91]

I hate to tell you all but this isn't on Dale, it's on the players. You don't think they are coached NOT to let the WR behind them? Of course they are, they just can't do it. We don't yet have the defensive talent. Feels like 2004 to me.

nah, 2004 was a different world. The heart that Richie, Atwater and some of those guys had would have broken our current team. You could also see the beginnings of a great team with Dexter, Lynch, Krich, and others getting their feet under them and gearing up for our breakout 2005 season. That team was on its way up. Our current team is flushing it all away.

We have a lot of young kids on Defense getting their legs. As far as heart, I don't question that with our kids at all just watch Chase, or Cam or Nick....you think those guys don't have heart? I disagree. We have had some big misses at certain positions (DB) based on coaching changes, injury, kids leaving football etc and we are behind the 8 ball, but I don't question the heart. As much as I hate to admit it, we have terrible coaching consistency and it has caught up to us in a big way. Find me a team that has 3 head coaches in 5 years, 5 OC in 5 years, 4 CB coaches in 5 years, etc and is successful. They don't exist and sadly we are not the exception. The turnover has caught up to us and it sucks. I am not making excuses. I think we should be better and win more this year but I also realize the realities of college football and we are not the team that exceeds those realities. We don't have the talent and our head coach is learning on the job.

Just cannot agree with that, every CFB team deals with turnover, coaches, players, all. We have seen what these guys can do, and you have to question the reason when they don't. Our culture has been the exception until now. truely we are a mediocre team and that is shocking. I believe we have the talent, but talent does not beat hard work when talent does not work hard. In yr 3, coach should be a veteran in the coaching dept. We are soft on both LOS and no one is stepping up to handle that. The OL at aTm has proven to be the exception. worried about the culture as we move forward, we look like a MAC team

[yosef69]

Clark doesn’t have a winning record vs any of the top sun belt teams

[t4pizza]

Doug Gillin needs to do something NOW!!

We haven't fired a football coach since before Mack Brown was our coach (I think we fired that Working guy but it was so far before my time that I don't even know for sure) and I doubt we start that now. Gillen had to know hiring a coach without any former head coaching experience was going to have growing pains, I am sure that Clark isn't in any danger at all right now.

[App91]

Doug Gillin needs to do something NOW!!

It is worth mentioning that our entire athletic budget is driven by the success of the FB team. Never forget that.

[yosef69]

Doug Gillin needs to do something NOW!!

We haven't fired a football coach since before Mack Brown was our coach (I think we fired that Working guy but it was so far before my time that I don't even know for sure) and I doubt we start that now. Gillen had to know hiring a coach without any former head coaching experience was going to have growing pains, I am sure that Clark isn't in any danger at all right now.

We haven’t had a bad coach in that time period. Apples to oranges. The program is on very thin ice.

[Appstate88]

Oh well. That stunk.

[App91]

Should be alot of free tickets to the ODU game. Dont forget they ran coastal out of their own building.

[Stonewall]

I doubt we have the money to buy out his contract.It does appear that the AD made a major mistake in pushing through the extension.Same with Jim Foxx as I remember.

[OldAppPlayer]

My brother played for Coach Working his senior year at App. He was the last one I remember being fired. The rest of the coaches after him except Coach Moore didn’t stay too long.

[AppDub]

Going to be tough raising funds for stadium expansion if we remain a middle of the road team.

[asu1978]

We lose by one td.BOO HOO.Deal with it.I'll be turning 68 next month and I have supported the APPS longer than most of you have been alive.Grow a pair.We can win the rest of our season games!!!

[appstate24]

Hate to even dive into this. I’m not touching the topic of coaches needing to go, or not. However, I will say this, and I’ve said it many times this year, this stupid $h!t of going for it on every 4th and short just cause “it’s your thing” has now cost of 2 conference games IMOP.

Our defense had started to get their feet under them and were playing much better than they started out. Then we fail on 4th and 2 in our own territory, and completely jerk the rug out from under them. Not to mention we give coastal a short field, instead of making them drive the entire field with a gimpy QB. It changed the game and gave them all the momentum back just like it did at Texas State.

It’s dumb, it’s reckless, it’s deflating to the team, and it has cost us games this year.

Be. Smarter. Will be very interesting to see how we bounce back from this with the Sun Belt east out of reach.

GO APPS!!

[t4pizza]

I hate to tell you all but this isn't on Dale, it's on the players. You don't think they are coached NOT to let the WR behind them? Of course they are, they just can't do it. We don't yet have the defensive talent. Feels like 2004 to me.

nah, 2004 was a different world. The heart that Richie, Atwater and some of those guys had would have broken our current team. You could also see the beginnings of a great team with Dexter, Lynch, Krich, and others getting their feet under them and gearing up for our breakout 2005 season. That team was on its way up. Our current team is flushing it all away.

We have a lot of young kids on Defense getting their legs. As far as heart, I don't question that with our kids at all just watch Chase, or Cam or Nick....you think those guys don't have heart? I disagree. We have had some big misses at certain positions (DB) based on coaching changes, injury, kids leaving football etc and we are behind the 8 ball, but I don't question the heart. As much as I hate to admit it, we have terrible coaching consistency and it has caught up to us in a big way. Find me a team that has 3 head coaches in 5 years, 5 OC in 5 years, 4 CB coaches in 5 years, etc and is successful. They don't exist and sadly we are not the exception. The turnover has caught up to us and it sucks. I am not making excuses. I think we should be better and win more this year but I also realize the realities of college football and we are not the team that exceeds those realities. We don't have the talent and our head coach is learning on the job.

Just cannot agree with that, every CFB team deals with turnover, coaches, players, all. We have seen what these guys can do, and you have to question the reason when they don't. Our culture has been the exception until now. truely we are a mediocre team and that is shocking. I believe we have the talent, but talent does not beat hard work when talent does not work hard. In yr 3, coach should be a veteran in the coaching dept. We are soft on both LOS and no one is stepping up to handle that. The OL at aTm has proven to be the exception. worried about the culture as we move forward, we look like a MAC team

Look, perhaps I am not making sense after my heavy drinking for this game, I don't disagree. I think we should be better. I think we should not have lost to JMU or Texas State and I do blame those loses on the head coach. BUT I do recognize that we have significant talent loss from last season and many misses on the recruiting trial from Satt's last year to Drink's year or so. FACT is that our coaching changes of assistance has HURT us without a question. We have coaches who recruit a kid and then leave and the next guy might not think that recruited kid is all that because he didn't recruit him and then that coach gets his own kid but then he leaves.....repreat, repeat, repeart.
I think we should be better, but when I step back and look at it all I do realize that we don't have the talent and our constantly changing coaching staff has impacted that issue. Again, find me a successful team (besides Bama) that has had 5 OC in 5 years, 4 CB coaches in 5 years and 3 head coaches in 5 years. I know we all want more, but this season has shown me that we are not the exception to the rule, we are like every other school and we will be affected by those type of coaching changes. I will wait for any poster to find a team with that type of coaching turnover that is still successful. I doubt it happens.

[yosef69]

We lose by one td.BOO HOO.Deal with it.I'll be turning 68 next month and I have supported the APPS longer than most of you have been alive.Grow a pair.We can win the rest of our season games!!!

Must not have seen many other games this season. Not sure what your age has to do with anything.

[t4pizza]

Doug Gillin needs to do something NOW!!

We haven't fired a football coach since before Mack Brown was our coach (I think we fired that Working guy but it was so far before my time that I don't even know for sure) and I doubt we start that now. Gillen had to know hiring a coach without any former head coaching experience was going to have growing pains, I am sure that Clark isn't in any danger at all right now.

We haven’t had a bad coach in that time period. Apples to oranges. The program is on very thin ice.

You say that but I remember Moore's early years and we would chant "NO MOORE" in the student section because he wasn't Sparky. Now, in time he clearly worked out but the early years weren't any better than what Clark is doing.

[GreatAppSt]

We lose by one td.BOO HOO.Deal with it.I'll be turning 68 next month and I have supported the APPS longer than most of you have been alive.Grow a pair.We can win the rest of our season games!!!

We are dealing with it, we are venting on a message board so as not to be really shitty at work tomorrow.

[App91]

We lose by one td.BOO HOO.Deal with it.I'll be turning 68 next month and I have supported the APPS longer than most of you have been alive.Grow a pair.We can win the rest of our season games!!!

Based on what you have seen so far? You know the definition of a moron...

[Stonewall]

Losing a game ,no big deal .Watching the program become mediocre ,different story.