Can confirm, NEZ food reminds me of middle school cafeteria food. Tastes better with cold beer.T-Dog wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 5:58 pmIt shouldn't be about Loggains, even if it will be.
Gillin has said he wants to raise the athletics budget from $50 million to $100 million in the next 10 years, yet right now they're "taking from one pot to put in another" for NIL.
Gillin talked about having sponsor logos on the field and court this season, and neither happened.
We've all talked about the KBS experience. The crowded gates due to terrible security setup the first two games, the inconsistent sound, the choke points, the expensive concessions, and what I heard from multiple people is the horrible food to the NEZ ticket holders.
Lack of any plan to refurbish Holmes besides a center hanging scoreboard.
The pushing forward of the East Tower plan and potentially burdening the program and school with over $100 million more in debt despite infrastructure issues with the rest of the stadium.
The lack of marketing for apparel. I know Riley who has pushed for this big time and he's been severely discouraged in his talks with Gillin.
The coldness in his communications. Just a bunch of form sentences and "Donate to the Yosef Club."
Singular focus on money. Every interview its about money. After the previous softball season, he said something about trying to make money off that top-of-hill seating overlooking the new stadium. Then there's the raising of season ticket prices in every ticketed sport multiple times and charging extra fees to buy non-football tickets to more than one event.
Winning cures a lot, but much of this has been building for a while. This doesn't mean Gillin has done zilch. There's a lot of positives. But there's serious concerns about his leadership that have nothing to do with head coaches.
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IMO CEOs (and Gillian is ceo of the AD) have a shelf life (like restaurants). Things get stale and new blood and new opportunities are best for everyone.
ADDG has done a good job for a long time, but there’s no mistaking we’ve taken a big step back in football and we’re treading water in men’s basketball. That’s about 90% plus of our revenue thats generated organically.
ADDG has done a good job for a long time, but there’s no mistaking we’ve taken a big step back in football and we’re treading water in men’s basketball. That’s about 90% plus of our revenue thats generated organically.
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What's interesting about it is that we would pay a higher price for better food. I get all 5 or 6 choices cannot be elite.. but have one of five each week be elite311neers wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 6:14 pmCan confirm, NEZ food reminds me of middle school cafeteria food. Tastes better with cold beer.T-Dog wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 5:58 pmIt shouldn't be about Loggains, even if it will be.
Gillin has said he wants to raise the athletics budget from $50 million to $100 million in the next 10 years, yet right now they're "taking from one pot to put in another" for NIL.
Gillin talked about having sponsor logos on the field and court this season, and neither happened.
We've all talked about the KBS experience. The crowded gates due to terrible security setup the first two games, the inconsistent sound, the choke points, the expensive concessions, and what I heard from multiple people is the horrible food to the NEZ ticket holders.
Lack of any plan to refurbish Holmes besides a center hanging scoreboard.
The pushing forward of the East Tower plan and potentially burdening the program and school with over $100 million more in debt despite infrastructure issues with the rest of the stadium.
The lack of marketing for apparel. I know Riley who has pushed for this big time and he's been severely discouraged in his talks with Gillin.
The coldness in his communications. Just a bunch of form sentences and "Donate to the Yosef Club."
Singular focus on money. Every interview its about money. After the previous softball season, he said something about trying to make money off that top-of-hill seating overlooking the new stadium. Then there's the raising of season ticket prices in every ticketed sport multiple times and charging extra fees to buy non-football tickets to more than one event.
Winning cures a lot, but much of this has been building for a while. This doesn't mean Gillin has done zilch. There's a lot of positives. But there's serious concerns about his leadership that have nothing to do with head coaches.
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Well stated.T-Dog wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 5:58 pmIt shouldn't be about Loggains, even if it will be.
Gillin has said he wants to raise the athletics budget from $50 million to $100 million in the next 10 years, yet right now they're "taking from one pot to put in another" for NIL.
Gillin talked about having sponsor logos on the field and court this season, and neither happened.
We've all talked about the KBS experience. The crowded gates due to terrible security setup the first two games, the inconsistent sound, the choke points, the expensive concessions, and what I heard from multiple people is the horrible food to the NEZ ticket holders.
Lack of any plan to refurbish Holmes besides a center hanging scoreboard.
The pushing forward of the East Tower plan and potentially burdening the program and school with over $100 million more in debt despite infrastructure issues with the rest of the stadium.
The lack of marketing for apparel. I know Riley who has pushed for this big time and he's been severely discouraged in his talks with Gillin.
The coldness in his communications. Just a bunch of form sentences and "Donate to the Yosef Club."
Singular focus on money. Every interview its about money. After the previous softball season, he said something about trying to make money off that top-of-hill seating overlooking the new stadium. Then there's the raising of season ticket prices in every ticketed sport multiple times and charging extra fees to buy non-football tickets to more than one event.
Winning cures a lot, but much of this has been building for a while. This doesn't mean Gillin has done zilch. There's a lot of positives. But there's serious concerns about his leadership that have nothing to do with head coaches.
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Thank you for laying all of this out.T-Dog wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 5:58 pmIt shouldn't be about Loggains, even if it will be.
Gillin has said he wants to raise the athletics budget from $50 million to $100 million in the next 10 years, yet right now they're "taking from one pot to put in another" for NIL.
Gillin talked about having sponsor logos on the field and court this season, and neither happened.
We've all talked about the KBS experience. The crowded gates due to terrible security setup the first two games, the inconsistent sound, the choke points, the expensive concessions, and what I heard from multiple people is the horrible food to the NEZ ticket holders.
Lack of any plan to refurbish Holmes besides a center hanging scoreboard.
The pushing forward of the East Tower plan and potentially burdening the program and school with over $100 million more in debt despite infrastructure issues with the rest of the stadium.
The lack of marketing for apparel. I know Riley who has pushed for this big time and he's been severely discouraged in his talks with Gillin.
The coldness in his communications. Just a bunch of form sentences and "Donate to the Yosef Club."
Singular focus on money. Every interview its about money. After the previous softball season, he said something about trying to make money off that top-of-hill seating overlooking the new stadium. Then there's the raising of season ticket prices in every ticketed sport multiple times and charging extra fees to buy non-football tickets to more than one event.
Winning cures a lot, but much of this has been building for a while. This doesn't mean Gillin has done zilch. There's a lot of positives. But there's serious concerns about his leadership that have nothing to do with head coaches.
What’s truly sad is the incredible opportunity Gillin has wasted. App has a winning tradition and a national reputation, and what has he done with that magic formula?
NOTHING.
Gillin hasn’t done a great job; he’s ridden App’s reputation and done little to leverage the momentum and get more alums/fans involved. Let’s be honest: he’s always been both lazy and unimaginative. Example: why bother trying some creative fundraising ideas that may win new donors when he can just raise the price of tickets and parking passes?
To T-Dog’s point, he could care less about the fans; his grand solution is to generate more debt for stadium upgrades that may not matter in the near future. Should App spend that much money on a football project when your program is spiraling and fan support is beginning to wane? Hope isn’t a strategy, Douglas. But I doubt you’re able to recognize that.
Silver lining: If Norris ever fires him (fingers crossed), DG has all of the requisite qualities for a bright future in politics.
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Bootsy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 6:35 pmThank you for laying all of this out.T-Dog wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 5:58 pmIt shouldn't be about Loggains, even if it will be.
Gillin has said he wants to raise the athletics budget from $50 million to $100 million in the next 10 years, yet right now they're "taking from one pot to put in another" for NIL.
Gillin talked about having sponsor logos on the field and court this season, and neither happened.
We've all talked about the KBS experience. The crowded gates due to terrible security setup the first two games, the inconsistent sound, the choke points, the expensive concessions, and what I heard from multiple people is the horrible food to the NEZ ticket holders.
Lack of any plan to refurbish Holmes besides a center hanging scoreboard.
The pushing forward of the East Tower plan and potentially burdening the program and school with over $100 million more in debt despite infrastructure issues with the rest of the stadium.
The lack of marketing for apparel. I know Riley who has pushed for this big time and he's been severely discouraged in his talks with Gillin.
The coldness in his communications. Just a bunch of form sentences and "Donate to the Yosef Club."
Singular focus on money. Every interview its about money. After the previous softball season, he said something about trying to make money off that top-of-hill seating overlooking the new stadium. Then there's the raising of season ticket prices in every ticketed sport multiple times and charging extra fees to buy non-football tickets to more than one event.
Winning cures a lot, but much of this has been building for a while. This doesn't mean Gillin has done zilch. There's a lot of positives. But there's serious concerns about his leadership that have nothing to do with head coaches.
What’s truly sad is the incredible opportunity Gillin has wasted. App has a winning tradition and a national reputation, and what has he done with that magic formula?
NOTHING.
Gillin hasn’t done a great job; he’s ridden App’s reputation and done little to leverage the momentum and get more alums/fans involved. Let’s be honest: he’s always been both lazy and unimaginative. Example: why bother trying some creative fundraising ideas that may win new donors when he can just raise the price of tickets and parking passes?
To T-Dog’s point, he could care less about the fans; his grand solution is to generate more debt for stadium upgrades that may not matter in the near future. Should App spend that much money on a football project when your program is spiraling and fan support is beginning to wane? Hope isn’t a strategy, Douglas. But I doubt you’re able to recognize that.
Silver lining: If Norris ever fires him (fingers crossed), DG has all of the requisite qualities for a bright future in politics.
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kornegaylw wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 2:51 pm3 games were lost by a field goal or less...1 by a TD and 2 pt conversion.
- Had we not had all the injuries on the OL and RB we would have won at least 1 of thoses.
- Injuries are not Loggians fault.
- The offsides at taking away the TD yesterday isn't Loggains fault
Go ahead and rip this appart...idc anymore
Regarding the stolen TD: I paused that play and there was no illegal formation. We had 4 in the backfield, 6 on the OL, and the WR at the bottom of my TV screen was on the LOS. We got royally screwed on that and never got kissed.
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Just because I was curious, I looked at it again. I do think it was the right call, as much as I hate itscatman77 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 9:06 amkornegaylw wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 2:51 pm3 games were lost by a field goal or less...1 by a TD and 2 pt conversion.
- Had we not had all the injuries on the OL and RB we would have won at least 1 of thoses.
- Injuries are not Loggians fault.
- The offsides at taking away the TD yesterday isn't Loggains fault
Go ahead and rip this appart...idc anymore
Regarding the stolen TD: I paused that play and there was no illegal formation. We had 4 in the backfield, 6 on the OL, and the WR at the bottom of my TV screen was on the LOS. We got royally screwed on that and never got kissed.
It's a terrible camera angle, but #1 under the score widget is lined up almost exactly even with #87, especially when you consider that the DB over there is on the LOS, you can see how much space there is between them, leaving only 6 lined up on the LOS. If #1 would have moved up 1.5 yards, it would have stood as a legal play.
