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[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

I like it when on 4th and 1, we went for it and scored a touchdown. We should do that every 4th down.

[The Rock]

I applauded the punt on our first drive on 4th and 1 on our 40, just as I criticized the decision to go for it last week.

This is situational decision making. The first five minutes of the game isn't the time to take risks when you are the perceived favorite.

completley agree. I have been critical of our over aggressiveness, and liked the decisions on when to punt/go for it, although the punts themselves weren't great.

[The Rock]

Let Cam get his 100+ and then pull him, we need him to get yards if we want our NCAA Best 1000 rushing yard streak to continue.

I’m sure Sabin, Dabo and Kirby have the same mentality. This game only matters so that players get their individual stats. That’s how programs are built. Rings and the W/L record are pointless. This season is a waste if so and so doesn’t make 1k yards

The 1000 yard streak is not an individual stat, it is an indication of a program of consistency running the ball and something that our team should take pride in. Doesn't matter who gets it, as long as someone does because it is a harbinger of success for us. When we have a 1000 yard back, the season is usually a good one. I am sure it is not a team goal at all, as winning the conference and a bowl are but I am equally sure the offensive line take great pride that for the past 10 years we are the only school in the NCAA FBS division that has been able to produce a 1000 yard back. I don't think Clark thinks of it at all nor should he. But, I am not Clark, I am a fan who wants to see Cam get his 1000+ yards because he is by far our best back and when he is in the game, good things happen for App. Hell, even the broadcasters realized that last night and it didn't take them long. Murray remarked about how different our team is when Cam is in the game and on the field. So yes, I want him to get his 100 next week and sit for the next 3 quarters while others get their shot.

We have multiple capable backs. I would be fine with losing the 1,000 yard rusher streak and replace it with a conference championship and bowl game win. Let Cam and Nate rest against Robert Morris and have them as close to 100% as possible for the Coastal, Marshall, ODU, GSU gauntlet that will actually impact the results of our season, not just a meaningless stat

I would much rather win a conference title also, I just happen to believe that our best way to do that is to ride Cam, and if we do he will get his yards. Our offense just moves better when he is in the game, and anyone who doubts that just go back and look at our loses. We are not just going to not play our starters, nobody does that (just watch any SEC against FCS team and see if the starters don't play) . We will play them most of the first half and have our backups in after that.

I totally agree. We do need to ride Cam and our offense flows better with him in the game, but putting him in a game against a meaningless FCS opponent just to "get his 100" while risking injury for games that really matter is an unnecessary risk just to chase a stat

[AppinVA]

I’m sure Sabin, Dabo and Kirby have the same mentality. This game only matters so that players get their individual stats. That’s how programs are built. Rings and the W/L record are pointless. This season is a waste if so and so doesn’t make 1k yards

The 1000 yard streak is not an individual stat, it is an indication of a program of consistency running the ball and something that our team should take pride in. Doesn't matter who gets it, as long as someone does because it is a harbinger of success for us. When we have a 1000 yard back, the season is usually a good one. I am sure it is not a team goal at all, as winning the conference and a bowl are but I am equally sure the offensive line take great pride that for the past 10 years we are the only school in the NCAA FBS division that has been able to produce a 1000 yard back. I don't think Clark thinks of it at all nor should he. But, I am not Clark, I am a fan who wants to see Cam get his 1000+ yards because he is by far our best back and when he is in the game, good things happen for App. Hell, even the broadcasters realized that last night and it didn't take them long. Murray remarked about how different our team is when Cam is in the game and on the field. So yes, I want him to get his 100 next week and sit for the next 3 quarters while others get their shot.

We have multiple capable backs. I would be fine with losing the 1,000 yard rusher streak and replace it with a conference championship and bowl game win. Let Cam and Nate rest against Robert Morris and have them as close to 100% as possible for the Coastal, Marshall, ODU, GSU gauntlet that will actually impact the results of our season, not just a meaningless stat

I would much rather win a conference title also, I just happen to believe that our best way to do that is to ride Cam, and if we do he will get his yards. Our offense just moves better when he is in the game, and anyone who doubts that just go back and look at our loses. We are not just going to not play our starters, nobody does that (just watch any SEC against FCS team and see if the starters don't play) . We will play them most of the first half and have our backups in after that.

I totally agree. We do need to ride Cam and our offense flows better with him in the game, but putting him in a game against a meaningless FCS opponent just to "get his 100" while risking injury for games that really matter is an unnecessary risk just to chase a stat

Cam is a player, and he only has five or six more opportunities remaining to give his ALL. Sure, let him play a little and rest him for the short following week, but allow him to do what he does.

[AppinATL]

I question anyone who questions anyone's fandom based on what they post on a message board.

With all due respect, maybe its time to rethink that position. This board has become a toxic soup of embarrassing takes the moment we have a bad series or two. As bad as the Georgia Southern fans ever were during their epic meltdowns that we used to laugh at. Some of these people on here are an embarrassment to this program and our school in general. I’m just done sitting back and being quiet about it. If they are going to rant against my team, its players and their coaches, I am going to rant against them. Ever notice how quiet and boring the threads on here are when we win and play great? Thats because these “fans” exist online to complain, bitch and moan and when they don’t have something to fuel that, they just don’t have much to say.

[yosef69]

I question anyone who questions anyone's fandom based on what they post on a message board.

With all due respect, maybe its time to rethink that position. This board has become a toxic soup of embarrassing takes the moment we have a bad series or two. As bad as the Georgia Southern fans ever were during their epic meltdowns that we used to laugh at. Some of these people on here are an embarrassment to this program and our school in general. I’m just done sitting back and being quiet about it. If they are going to rant against my team, its players and their coaches, I am going to rant against them. Ever notice how quiet and boring the threads on here are when we win and play great? Thats because these “fans” exist online to complain, bitch and moan and when they don’t have something to fuel that, they just don’t have much to say.

A bad series or two? Let’s think about the bad things from this year.

1) 65 points dropped on our head by unc
2) JMU was a complete debacle. You can’t choke a 28-3 lead. Or a 28-10 lead in the middle of the third quarter.
3) Texas state was an absolute embarrassment of an L from a perennial bottom feeder.

And this is ignoring the miracle it took to beat Troy. And the WKU embarrassment last year. And the two ULL embarrassments last year.

Your team is just as much my team and when they’re sucking I’m allowed to say they’re sucking. Realize that your type of fandom isn’t the only type of fandom that is allowed to exist and grow up.

[bcoach]

They need to fire the whole damn coaching staff. The equipment mgr. pisses me off even more than the coaches. DG needs to go also..........oops sorry wrong week.

[appchicago]

They need to fire the whole damn coaching staff. The equipment mgr. pisses me off even more than the coaches. DG needs to go also..........oops sorry wrong week.

IT ALL STARTS WITH THE GROUNDSKEEPERS, MAN! FIRE EM ALL.

[Seattleapp]

I question anyone who questions anyone's fandom based on what they post on a message board.

With all due respect, maybe its time to rethink that position. This board has become a toxic soup of embarrassing takes the moment we have a bad series or two. As bad as the Georgia Southern fans ever were during their epic meltdowns that we used to laugh at. Some of these people on here are an embarrassment to this program and our school in general. I’m just done sitting back and being quiet about it. If they are going to rant against my team, its players and their coaches, I am going to rant against them. Ever notice how quiet and boring the threads on here are when we win and play great? Thats because these “fans” exist online to complain, bitch and moan and when they don’t have something to fuel that, they just don’t have much to say.

A bad series or two? Let’s think about the bad things from this year.

1) 65 points dropped on our head by unc
2) JMU was a complete debacle. You can’t choke a 28-3 lead. Or a 28-10 lead in the middle of the third quarter.
3) Texas state was an absolute embarrassment of an L from a perennial bottom feeder.

And this is ignoring the miracle it took to beat Troy. And the WKU embarrassment last year. And the two ULL embarrassments last year.

Your team is just as much my team and when they’re sucking I’m allowed to say they’re sucking. Realize that your type of fandom isn’t the only type of fandom that is allowed to exist and grow up.

Yeah he’s the one that needs to grow up. That’s rich.

[MrCraig]

The first three drives were 4th and 1 at the 40, 4th and 4 at the 41, and 4th and 4 at the 42 (all on our side) if I recall correctly.

That's not scared football, that is fundamentally sound decision making. What has happened to our fanbase and the knowledge of basic football principles.

Have to agree with you here, especially when our defense has been very porous.

If the defense has been bad, why would you literally GIVE the ball to the other team instead of trying to hold on to it for at least 4 more downs?

[MrCraig]

The first three drives were 4th and 1 at the 40, 4th and 4 at the 41, and 4th and 4 at the 42 (all on our side) if I recall correctly.

That's not scared football, that is fundamentally sound decision making. What has happened to our fanbase and the knowledge of basic football principles.

*pushes up glasses* Actually! According to ESPN analytics, with less than 4 yards to go, and less than 55 yards to the opponent's endzone, going for it would be the better decision and increase your win probability. Add into that the fact that GA State has the second worst run defense in the conference, App should have gone for it on both occasions that they had the ball on 4th and 1 on their own 46 yard line.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/330 ... mendations

And yet no one that actually holds the job does this, due to the intangibles not the least of which is momentum shifts.

Also not true. More NFL coaches are going for it on 4th down than ever before. And, many of the best coaches in the league are the ones who go for it more often.
https://www.nfl.com/news/next-gen-stats ... 2021-nfl-s

Ok you're comparing NFL and college which is vastly different. The execution risk at that level and college is night and day. Completion percentages, consistent results, etc.

Maybe Alabama should follow that, but I like the old school thought of punting and making the other team drive further.

Again, I’ll point to the stats that are available to everyone. Even Big C mentioned in his preview that GA State has one of the worst run defenses in the country. App has a great run offense. App had proved before the first punt, and proved MANY times after, that App could get 1 yard anytime they wanted. This game could’ve been over in the first quarter. That being said, I was very happy to see the defense step up and look like the dominant unit they normally are.

[Yosefus]

They need to fire the whole damn coaching staff. The equipment mgr. pisses me off even more than the coaches. DG needs to go also..........oops sorry wrong week.

Yeah. The equipment guy. Forgot about him. The only reason he has that job is because he is the illegitimate son of the guy who turns the lights on and off at the Rock. That guy is a "fixture" at App State!

[Saint3333]

The first three drives were 4th and 1 at the 40, 4th and 4 at the 41, and 4th and 4 at the 42 (all on our side) if I recall correctly.

That's not scared football, that is fundamentally sound decision making. What has happened to our fanbase and the knowledge of basic football principles.

Have to agree with you here, especially when our defense has been very porous.

If the defense has been bad, why would you literally GIVE the ball to the other team instead of trying to hold on to it for at least 4 more downs?

It takes twice as many plays to go 80 yards as 40.

It’s the first drive of the game.

Execution risk in the college game.

The opponent gains 15 yards they get 3 points.

Pick a, b, c, or d, but the correct answer is E.

[BUTCH1991]

This is all I'm saying on this - It is a long way from "Not the way to start" - to - "this team f-ing sucks". "fire everyone" and all the other ignorant comments. The only ones who don't have "HEART" are not the players but some of you "fans" (it's a joke to even use that word for a few of you)

Amen

[App91]

I think we should start giving a monthly "I am a better fan than you" award.

There is already a club around like that.

Yes its called the Sunshine Squad

[WVAPPeer]

I think we should start giving a monthly "I am a better fan than you" award.

There is already a club around like that.

Yes its called the Sunshine Squad

Hey man, you must be forgetting those many years ago when you guys made me President of the Lollipop Guild

[App91]

Ha! That's right!

[BambooRdApp]

Definitely tickets sold...not fannies in seats from my view from the confines of my living room...but we will take it. Looks good on paper

Biggest Tuesday/Wednesday regular-season home draws in all of college football in the last decade:

1. App State-Georgia State, 2022 (31,757)
2. App State-Coastal, 2021 (31,061)
3. UCF-SMU, 2022 (27,495)
4. Troy-South Alabama, 2017 (25,211)

[t4pizza]

Definitely tickets sold...not fannies in seats from my view from the confines of my living room...but we will take it. Looks good on paper

Biggest Tuesday/Wednesday regular-season home draws in all of college football in the last decade:

1. App State-Georgia State, 2022 (31,757)
2. App State-Coastal, 2021 (31,061)
3. UCF-SMU, 2022 (27,495)
4. Troy-South Alabama, 2017 (25,211)

While I like that we show up, hope the ESPN execs don't see this as a good reason to keep playing us on mid week nights. I get we are going to have one or so per season but now that the Sun Belt is large enough, we shouldn't have to play multiple mid week games.

[WVAPPeer]

Ha! That's right!

And you guys know I was right much more than I wasn't