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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Post by JTApps1 » Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:16 pm

WASU 93 wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 2:40 pm
JTApps1 wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 2:29 pm
WASU 93 wrote:
Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:56 pm
dtrain4prez wrote:
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I think it goes back to the fundamental problem that is the transfer portal. There is no more loyalty or commitment in college football. Everyone knows if things go bad, they can always transfer somewhere else next year. How many of our players (or coaches) even care about the rivalry with GSU? It's pay for play and it's here to stay.
Here’s the Devil’s advocate response to that. NIL and the Transfer Portal exist in Conway and Statesboro. Both of those teams treated the respective games as a rivalry, played chippy and one tried to plant a flag at midfield.

The GaSo fans are not happy with Clay Helton, yet he can get his team off the bus ready to play and fired up.

Just because you are getting paid (and I don’t believe they all are getting paid) doesn’t mean you can’t be passionate about your job

National TV/packed stadium and the sideline wasn’t energized. Watch the other G5 mid week games. Coming off a break, coaching staff should have had the team ready to run through a wall and had some wrinkles in the game plan.
I think you're seeing the difference between an NFL business like mindset and the more emotional/energetic college mindset.
Is that good?
It didn't on Thursday!

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Post by ASUFan4863 » Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:16 pm

Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:08 pm
JTApps1 wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 2:29 pm
WASU 93 wrote:
Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:56 pm
dtrain4prez wrote:
Sat Nov 08, 2025 5:06 pm
I think it goes back to the fundamental problem that is the transfer portal. There is no more loyalty or commitment in college football. Everyone knows if things go bad, they can always transfer somewhere else next year. How many of our players (or coaches) even care about the rivalry with GSU? It's pay for play and it's here to stay.
Here’s the Devil’s advocate response to that. NIL and the Transfer Portal exist in Conway and Statesboro. Both of those teams treated the respective games as a rivalry, played chippy and one tried to plant a flag at midfield.

The GaSo fans are not happy with Clay Helton, yet he can get his team off the bus ready to play and fired up.

Just because you are getting paid (and I don’t believe they all are getting paid) doesn’t mean you can’t be passionate about your job

National TV/packed stadium and the sideline wasn’t energized. Watch the other G5 mid week games. Coming off a break, coaching staff should have had the team ready to run through a wall and had some wrinkles in the game plan.
I think you're seeing the difference between an NFL business like mindset and the more emotional/energetic college mindset.
GS and CC both played emotional and they beat us. I understand playing under control but guys have to want it to win. It’s not a business transaction, another guy is literally trying to run you over and make you not want to see him coming at you again.
Energy and sideline reactions are often overplayed in importance. We’ve had players jumping around on our opponents sideline for years and it amounted to nothing. Recruiting, Development, Strength training, Execution and Gameplanning are far more important to winning.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Post by Mjohn1988 » Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:39 pm

ASUFan4863 wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:16 pm
Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:08 pm
JTApps1 wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 2:29 pm
WASU 93 wrote:
Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:56 pm
dtrain4prez wrote:
Sat Nov 08, 2025 5:06 pm
I think it goes back to the fundamental problem that is the transfer portal. There is no more loyalty or commitment in college football. Everyone knows if things go bad, they can always transfer somewhere else next year. How many of our players (or coaches) even care about the rivalry with GSU? It's pay for play and it's here to stay.
Here’s the Devil’s advocate response to that. NIL and the Transfer Portal exist in Conway and Statesboro. Both of those teams treated the respective games as a rivalry, played chippy and one tried to plant a flag at midfield.

The GaSo fans are not happy with Clay Helton, yet he can get his team off the bus ready to play and fired up.

Just because you are getting paid (and I don’t believe they all are getting paid) doesn’t mean you can’t be passionate about your job

National TV/packed stadium and the sideline wasn’t energized. Watch the other G5 mid week games. Coming off a break, coaching staff should have had the team ready to run through a wall and had some wrinkles in the game plan.
I think you're seeing the difference between an NFL business like mindset and the more emotional/energetic college mindset.
GS and CC both played emotional and they beat us. I understand playing under control but guys have to want it to win. It’s not a business transaction, another guy is literally trying to run you over and make you not want to see him coming at you again.
Energy and sideline reactions are often overplayed in importance. We’ve had players jumping around on our opponents sideline for years and it amounted to nothing. Recruiting, Development, Strength training, Execution and Gameplanning are far more important to winning.
I’m not so much talking about the guys on the sidelines. I’m talking about intensity on the field. I agree with everything else you’re pointing out, especially the strength training, but if 2 good athletes are facing each other the difference many times is simply who wants it the most. I’m not talking about who has the best TD or sack dance. Wanting to win is an emotional mind set. Refusing to quit is an emotional mind set. Being the best requires players to have certain emotions during practice and games. Football is a gladiator sport, not a business transaction.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Post by WASU 93 » Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:52 pm

JTApps1 wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:16 pm
WASU 93 wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 2:40 pm
JTApps1 wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 2:29 pm
WASU 93 wrote:
Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:56 pm
dtrain4prez wrote:
Sat Nov 08, 2025 5:06 pm
I think it goes back to the fundamental problem that is the transfer portal. There is no more loyalty or commitment in college football. Everyone knows if things go bad, they can always transfer somewhere else next year. How many of our players (or coaches) even care about the rivalry with GSU? It's pay for play and it's here to stay.
Here’s the Devil’s advocate response to that. NIL and the Transfer Portal exist in Conway and Statesboro. Both of those teams treated the respective games as a rivalry, played chippy and one tried to plant a flag at midfield.

The GaSo fans are not happy with Clay Helton, yet he can get his team off the bus ready to play and fired up.

Just because you are getting paid (and I don’t believe they all are getting paid) doesn’t mean you can’t be passionate about your job

National TV/packed stadium and the sideline wasn’t energized. Watch the other G5 mid week games. Coming off a break, coaching staff should have had the team ready to run through a wall and had some wrinkles in the game plan.
I think you're seeing the difference between an NFL business like mindset and the more emotional/energetic college mindset.
Is that good?
It didn't on Thursday!
In today’s new NIL world, the one area where we stand out is an incredible student crowd and solid alumni crowd that fills more seats (and a hillside) then they leave empty.
Players should love playing in that atmosphere (vs. at GaSt or ODU or Charlotte or even Marshall)
Perhaps the “business approach” should be saved for the road.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Post by bcoach » Sun Nov 09, 2025 11:25 pm

WASU 93 wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 2:40 pm
JTApps1 wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 2:29 pm
WASU 93 wrote:
Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:56 pm
dtrain4prez wrote:
Sat Nov 08, 2025 5:06 pm
I think it goes back to the fundamental problem that is the transfer portal. There is no more loyalty or commitment in college football. Everyone knows if things go bad, they can always transfer somewhere else next year. How many of our players (or coaches) even care about the rivalry with GSU? It's pay for play and it's here to stay.
Here’s the Devil’s advocate response to that. NIL and the Transfer Portal exist in Conway and Statesboro. Both of those teams treated the respective games as a rivalry, played chippy and one tried to plant a flag at midfield.

The GaSo fans are not happy with Clay Helton, yet he can get his team off the bus ready to play and fired up.

Just because you are getting paid (and I don’t believe they all are getting paid) doesn’t mean you can’t be passionate about your job

National TV/packed stadium and the sideline wasn’t energized. Watch the other G5 mid week games. Coming off a break, coaching staff should have had the team ready to run through a wall and had some wrinkles in the game plan.
I think you're seeing the difference between an NFL business like mindset and the more emotional/energetic college mindset.
Is that good?
I don't believe that it is. There are a number of things that go into winning on the college level. An emotional/ energetic college mindset is one of them.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Post by Stonewall » Mon Nov 10, 2025 7:39 am

Our home atmosphere certainly fires up visiting teams.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Post by BambooRdApp » Mon Nov 10, 2025 8:27 am

I think the emotional mindset is different from a fan perspective versus players perspective. Yes, fans should be loud, feel the extra emotion or chill in the area so to speak.

Players jumping up and down on sidelines doesn't really mean anything to me as it is probably backups doing most of the jumping.
Personally, I try to look at reactions to great plays, great hits, great catches, etc. and team reactions. It seems the team is together. I see congrats and celebrations on big plays.

With that said, it appears that the new staff is setting a new standard and expectations. Whether those standards and expectations are correct, time will tell. During transitions like this, the old guard of players may have issues with this.. and couple this with potentially other players friends being asked to leave the team....may have short term impacts in the locker room.

We talk about 50 new players coming into the fold. Those players came in out of necessity. AND after many players had made decisions to go to other teams given how late a coach was named.

It will be interesting to see how DLo and team performs with an entire recruiting cycle.
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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Post by AppStFan1 » Mon Nov 10, 2025 9:06 am

BambooRdApp wrote:
Mon Nov 10, 2025 8:27 am
I think the emotional mindset is different from a fan perspective versus players perspective. Yes, fans should be loud, feel the extra emotion or chill in the area so to speak.

Players jumping up and down on sidelines doesn't really mean anything to me as it is probably backups doing most of the jumping.
Personally, I try to look at reactions to great plays, great hits, great catches, etc. and team reactions. It seems the team is together. I see congrats and celebrations on big plays.

With that said, it appears that the new staff is setting a new standard and expectations. Whether those standards and expectations are correct, time will tell. During transitions like this, the old guard of players may have issues with this.. and couple this with potentially other players friends being asked to leave the team....may have short term impacts in the locker room.

We talk about 50 new players coming into the fold. Those players came in out of necessity. AND after many players had made decisions to go to other teams given how late a coach was named.

It will be interesting to see how DLo and team performs with an entire recruiting cycle.
I agree with this. He will now have a full cycle so I think we need to see how the team looks next year to judge it better.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Post by AppDawg » Mon Nov 10, 2025 11:09 am

WASU 93 wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:52 pm
JTApps1 wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:16 pm
WASU 93 wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 2:40 pm
JTApps1 wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 2:29 pm
WASU 93 wrote:
Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:56 pm


Here’s the Devil’s advocate response to that. NIL and the Transfer Portal exist in Conway and Statesboro. Both of those teams treated the respective games as a rivalry, played chippy and one tried to plant a flag at midfield.

The GaSo fans are not happy with Clay Helton, yet he can get his team off the bus ready to play and fired up.

Just because you are getting paid (and I don’t believe they all are getting paid) doesn’t mean you can’t be passionate about your job

National TV/packed stadium and the sideline wasn’t energized. Watch the other G5 mid week games. Coming off a break, coaching staff should have had the team ready to run through a wall and had some wrinkles in the game plan.
I think you're seeing the difference between an NFL business like mindset and the more emotional/energetic college mindset.
Is that good?
It didn't on Thursday!
In today’s new NIL world, the one area where we stand out is an incredible student crowd and solid alumni crowd that fills more seats (and a hillside) then they leave empty.
Players should love playing in that atmosphere (vs. at GaSt or ODU or Charlotte or even Marshall)
Perhaps the “business approach” should be saved for the road.
Definitely the crowd is a selling point, but how long is it sustainable in current environment of L’s stacking up and prices continuing to increase? Definitely the last few years paying more for a lesser product.

At some point the bubble is gonna pop.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Post by lillycafe2 » Mon Nov 10, 2025 11:20 am

ASUTodd wrote:
Fri Nov 07, 2025 7:12 am
BambooRdApp wrote:
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Previous coach inherited a Corvette. Current coach inherited a Yugo.
Then weeding out players not living to the standard depleted even more on D.
He should be given time.
It is going to take time unless the staff gets nil money for D1 level OL, DL and secondary.
100% on this. If there is no improvement next season then I say there's and issue. Clark left at 5-6. There were players on that team that should have been gone before the season started. They got kept around so the overall record wouldn't be as bad as it could have been. This year we are 4-5. That's with a complete overhaul, first year head coach, injuries, and kicking some players to the curb. We are so used to winning and looking down at other schools we forgot what it's like to be the one picked on and beaten down. Humble pie has a way of wearing on the patience. With that said ...patience is the key. I think Coach Dlo figures this out. My first year moving up and coaching high school level soccer players ended with us losing all of our games (been coaching for a decade or more yet hadn't moved to that level). This year (3 years later) we won the championship of our league. That first year sucked big time and parents weren't real happy. The second year we went .500 and made the playoffs but got knocked out.....but those that stuck it out reaped the benefits this year.
What high school?

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Post by fjblair » Mon Nov 10, 2025 12:14 pm

AppDawg wrote:
Mon Nov 10, 2025 11:09 am
WASU 93 wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:52 pm
JTApps1 wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:16 pm
WASU 93 wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 2:40 pm
JTApps1 wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 2:29 pm


I think you're seeing the difference between an NFL business like mindset and the more emotional/energetic college mindset.
Is that good?
It didn't on Thursday!
In today’s new NIL world, the one area where we stand out is an incredible student crowd and solid alumni crowd that fills more seats (and a hillside) then they leave empty.
Players should love playing in that atmosphere (vs. at GaSt or ODU or Charlotte or even Marshall)
Perhaps the “business approach” should be saved for the road.
Definitely the crowd is a selling point, but how long is it sustainable in current environment of L’s stacking up and prices continuing to increase? Definitely the last few years paying more for a lesser product.

At some point the bubble is gonna pop.
I think it will too, I just hope it isn't a big pop.

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